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Which makes what Sandusky did all the more evil. He created the foundation from which to recruit his future victims. Now, did his donors support it to do same?
At how many other colleges and universities is this happening? Through how many other sport venues open to children are they being stalked by staff members who are pedophiles? It would be naive to think that Penn State & Sandusky are an exception.
And you would be incorrect according to ALL the research. If you disagree, then please present some research (from reputable sources, as below) otherwise all you are saying is you have an opinion "just because you think so".
Here's just some of the research from the past 60 years.... again:
“The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual." Groth, A. N., & Gary, T. S. (1982). Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and pedophilia: Sexual offenses against children and adult sexual orientation.
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"Homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia are not synonymous. In fact, it may be that these two orientations are mutually exclusive, the reason being that the homosexual male is sexually attracted to masculine qualities whereas the heterosexual male is sexually attracted to feminine characteristics, and the sexually immature child’s qualities are more feminine than masculine. . . . The child offender who is attracted to and engaged in adult sexual relationships is heterosexual. It appears, therefore, that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater sexual risk to underage children than does the adult homosexual male." A. Nicholas Groth, William F. Hobson, and Thomas S. Gary, “The Child Molester: Clinical Observations,” in Social Work and Child Sexual Abuse, eds. Jon R. Conte and David A. Shore (New York: Haworth Press, 1982), p.136.
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"Amongst the heterosexuals, the commonest remarks concerning attractive features of the victims, were that the young boys did not have any body hair and that their bodies were soft and smooth." Marshal, W.L.; Barbaree, H.E.; Butt, Jennifer. “Sexual offenders against male children: Sexual preferences.”
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“Homosexual males who preferred physically mature partners responded no more to male children than heterosexual males who preferred physically mature partners responded to female children” Journal of Sex Research -Freund, Kurt; Watson, Robin J.; Rienzo, Douglas. “Heterosexuality, homosexuality, and the erotic age preference.” Journal of Sex Research 26, no. 1 (1989): 107-117
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“..a child’s risk of being molested by his or her relative’s heterosexual partner is 100 times greater than by someone who might be identified as a homosexual." (Carole Jenny et al., Are Children at Risk for Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?; 94 Pediatrics 41; July 1994)
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“The adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male” National Institutes of Health – PubMed(Groth and Birnbaum, “Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons.”)
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“The belief that homosexuals are particularly attracted to children is completely unsupported by our data.” National Institutes of Health – PubMed (Groth and Birnbaum, “Adult Sexual Orientation and Attraction to Underage Persons.”)
“A gay man is no more likely than a straight man to perpetrate sexual activity with children.” Journal of Psychology and Human Sexuality -(Stevenson, “Public Policy, Homosexuality and the Sexual Coercion of Children.”)
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The Abel and Harlow Child Molestation Prevention Study of over 4000 child molestors in the US also show that 97% of child molestors were religious and over 70% were married with children: Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute
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And here is a general article showing how some conservative religious anti-gay groups misrepresent and distort studies like those above to vilify homosexuals. Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation
I admire your tenacity. Unfortunately, some people are willfully uneducated and wish to remain that way.
Which makes what Sandusky did all the more evil. He created the foundation from which to recruit his future victims. Now, did his donors support it to do same?
At how many other colleges and universities is this happening? Through how many other sport venues open to children are they being stalked by staff members who are pedophiles? It would be naive to think that Penn State & Sandusky are an exception.
Check out Sandusky's, "charity" The Second Mile's website. Hundreds of thousands of kids all across the country have participated. There is also a very long list of donors, including some big names like BOA, Frito Lay, Walmart, etc.
It makes me sick to read about this program and their bogus goals of empowering abused children. One program they offer is called "Friend/Fitness" for adults mentoring youth with luncheons, picnics and work-outs. Takes on a whole new meaning in light of this scandal being outed.
Yes, it's a celebrity tabloid site and maybe it's a lookalike, but if this "exclusive" picture is real, someone has sure dropped the football on Sandusky's FLIGHT RISK:
It just burns me up to see him sitting there munching on a snack before his flight takes off like he doesn't have a care in the world. Denial? Arrogance? I can't figure it.
"Spartanburg, S.C. — An instructor at Limestone College has been arrested and charged with engaging in sex acts with a young boy while video chatting with another man over the Internet."
Disgusting. But happening more than anyone wishes to acknowledge.
Here's another one that has emerged a tad too late.
"CNN) -- With many focused on the Penn State child sex abuse scandal, a South Carolina military college said Saturday it regrets not pursuing an allegation against a camp counselor further than it did.
The Citadel released details on one of its alumni, Louis Neal "Skip" ReVille, who faces charges including criminal sexual conduct with a child...In 2007, the college received an allegation that five years earlier, ReVille invited two campers at The Citadel Summer Camp into his room to watch pornography. They did not touch each other, but engaged in sexual activity, the college said."
One mom reports that this guy who went on to become a vice principal at a Christian School would often take boys off campus on an "ice cream run." She now has nightmares about what may have gone on.
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Check out Sandusky's, "charity" The Second Mile's website. Hundreds of thousands of kids all across the country have participated. There is also a very long list of donors, including some big names like BOA, Frito Lay, Walmart, etc.
It makes me sick to read about this program and their bogus goals of empowering abused children. One program they offer is called "Friend/Fitness" for adults mentoring youth with luncheons, picnics and work-outs. Takes on a whole new meaning in light of this scandal being outed.
If true, could this be a nationwide money laundering scam that in addition to donations makes money pimping out kids, selling kids, making films and photos of kids, and whatever else these perverted and evil minds can come up with?
Or is this "just" statewide....... and is there a similar cover group(s) in many other states for illegal activities involving children?
Just how huge and how horrible is this?
I think maybe the MSM, because they HAD to cover it, is covering it as a "limited hangout" scenario.......... where a few go down, but the many carry on as usual.
I hope some independent journalist is looking into this- anonymously, of course, until he/she has the whole story to tell and can safely come out with it. Otherwise it will be an unknown dead journalist and most of what's going on will never be exposed. The owned and operated MSM certainly isn't going to dig into it. They are going to toe the line and say only what they are told to say by their handlers.
The answer is too obvious to miss. Heterosexuals are not attracted to the same sex, therefore, heterosexual males pose ZERO sexual threat to other males ... of any age. Homosexuality, on the other hand, is defined as a person who is sexually attracted to the same sex. Is not a male adult and a male child the same sex? Does Sandusky's repeated molestation of little boys (NO FEMALES) not show a consistent attraction to the same sex?
So, perhaps the better thing to do is for you to stop asking me these questions which have OBVIOUS answers, and instead, explain how this apparent same sex attraction really isn't what it appears to be.
And I don't consider "Just Because" a reasonable answer.
Just as adults chose other adult partners PRIMARILY based on sexual orientation, with a small element showing no preference one way or the other, those that are attracted to children demonstrate a similar pattern in selecting their victims. I see no point in choosing to believe the opposite of what that fundamental fact shows, or engaging in such denial as "we don't know if he had female victims" when clearly the pattern of all boys is well established, and consistent with the majority of pedophile behavior.
You can rationalize all you want ... but that won't change the facts. And you will never get accurate results by only considering half the equation, or ignoring the clear direction the facts point to.
You cannot understnad you are not a pedophile..also, most researchers will not know because it's not like pedophiles will tell the truth anyway...
Sandusky is a ruthless Monster. "That's what HE "is".....
Now, on tonights news, they warned that MOST abuse victims are abused by someone they know: YOUR friends, your priest, your coach, your camp counselor....
"NOT" the creepy guy in the rain-coat... {{{ "shudder" }}}}
Now, on tonights news, they warned that MOST abuse victims are abused by someone they know: YOUR friends, your priest, your coach, your camp counselor....
"NOT" the creepy guy in the rain-coat... {{{ "shudder" }}}}
This is true. They are frequently the ones you would least likely suspect. Parents and caregivers need to listen to that little voice inside their head that whispers to them that "something" - may not know exactly what, but "something" just doesn't seem right or maybe seems too good to be true. Those voices are usually right. Don't feel guilty about your suspicions - follow up on them. Better to err on the side of safety.
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It just burns me up to see him sitting there munching on a snack before his flight takes off like he doesn't have a care in the world. Denial? Arrogance? I can't figure it.
just....
