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I haven't been following the occupations at all, so I don't know the Occupiers' goals. I was just wondering if they've achieved any of their goals, whatever they are.
They have no real goals other than to permanently live like communal hippies in public city parks.
I haven't been following the occupations at all, so I don't know the Occupiers' goals. I was just wondering if they've achieved any of their goals, whatever they are.
Don't worry about not knowing their goals, most people don't, other than when they do say something is has something to do with "it's all about me". If shooting yourself in the foot, or head, was a goal, they succeeded in that regard!!!
The movement seems to have degenerated into unemployed and homeless with some criminal elements. It's great that our commander in chief has allied himself with them as he will be joining them come November 2012.
I polled the friends on my FB and here's what one person said:
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I'd argue they're already started achieving [their goals]. Legislation has moved based on their activism. The election results last week were skewed by their activism. Hell...even BoA changed some of their policies because of the activism and if anything...they've been successful in changing the narrative which is the most important thing.
BOA changed some of their policies because they were going to lose customers over a "ridiculously high" $5 fee, not because of OWS people.
They've gotten people talking more about how things could be changed or fixed, but for them to take sole credit for it is ridiculous- it's just that now they've annoyed people so much about it that they've effected change simply by being a nuisance.
I polled the friends on my FB and here's what one person said:
What do you all think?
As far as BofA, that was because consumers employed the intelligent "activism" of the capitalist marketplace - i.e., they threatened to take their business to competitors. Some mangy transient playing bongos for a month in the park had little to do with it. If the protesters would evolve their campaign into something that goes beyond living like a slob and employ targeted, legal tactics like this, the whole thing might start to make some sense - but I'm not holding my breath for that.
While I understand the intent of OWS is to highlight the banks' self-directed largesse, the widening gap between rich and poor, and the corrupt amalgamation of money, power and government, the only thing that springs to mind when I see these protesters is "where the hell are these people going to the toilet?"
As far as BofA, that was because consumers employed the intelligent "activism" of the capitalist marketplace - i.e., they threatened to take their business to competitors. Some mangy transient playing bongos for a month in the park had little to do with it. If the protesters would evolve their campaign into something that goes beyond living like a slob and employ targeted, legal tactics like this, the whole thing might start to make some sense - but I'm not holding my breath for that.
ok, so I ran that comment by my friend and he said:
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...if people were gonna move their money...why didn't they do it until the movement included that as a component of the protest?
On Nov. 5th THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of people left their bands.
Most credit unions have seen their memberships go up by 200% the norm since the beginning of the occupation.
As for OWS having an impact, I think it was very instructive on the behavior of immature liberal adolescents debasing and disgracing themselves in public. Something we have not seen since the 1960s. Hopefully, it will serve as a reminder to future generations so we do not see another such despicable act of stupidity until at least 2060. Otherwise, it accomplished nothing, as expected.
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