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Old 11-19-2011, 08:33 PM
 
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Is this true? Is wage stagnation really a myth?


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Conventional wisdom says that the middle class hasn’t caught a break for at least a decade and that incomes have stagnated or declined. But new research corrects a misconception regarding middle-class income, and therefore should come as a pleasant surprise—not just to members of the middle class, but also to pundits, journalists, and of course, politicians.

Speaking to an audience in Racine, Wisconsin, on June 30, 2010, President Obama repeated a winning theme from his 2008 campaign—the theme that the economic policies of the previous administration had failed those of us who consider ourselves middle class:

Nearly a decade of tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires led to little more than sluggish growth [and] a shrinking middle class. Your paychecks flatlined. Wages and incomes did not go up. Even when the economy was growing, it wasn't growing for you.

It was the same message we had been hearing for two years: the benefits of U.S. economic growth after the Bush tax cuts had allegedly been going to the rich and bypassing the middle class. By today, that mantra has become unchallenged conventional wisdom.

Today’s economy makes the problem even worse: the growth rate is somewhere between zero and pathetically anemic. So, even if the middle class did start getting its fair share of growth, that “fair share” wouldn’t amount to much. The rut just seems to get deeper and deeper for the middle class.
The Myth of Middle-Class Stagnation — The American Magazine
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:38 PM
 
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That's why the middle class can't afford iphones, plasma tvs, suvs, bigger homes, multiple cars, eating out, going to movies, brand name clothing, jewelry.... oh wait a minute... they can and do... life must be horrible for them, lets go back to the 1960's when taxes were high and they had one car, one television, non-brand name clothing, and all of it in a 1200 sq foot home while still not pay for their kids college education...
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:58 PM
 
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That's why the middle class can't afford iphones, plasma tvs, suvs, bigger homes, multiple cars, eating out, going to movies, brand name clothing, jewelry.... oh wait a minute... they can and do... life must be horrible for them, lets go back to the 1960's when taxes were high and they had one car, one television, non-brand name clothing, and all of it in a 1200 sq foot home while still not pay for their kids college education...
So what is Elizabeth Warren talking about?
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Old 11-19-2011, 09:08 PM
 
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The problem is that while they have the latest gadget as soon as a new version comes out they feel they have to buy that too. Why ? Why would someone who has an iPad run out to buy an iPad2 ?
Maybe people feel they will be left behind if they don't stay up with the latest gadgets ?

There are people that are just not happy with "last year's model". Same goes for vehicles.
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Old 11-19-2011, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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The problem is that while they have the latest gadget as soon as a new version comes out they feel they have to buy that too. Why ? Why would someone who has an iPad run out to buy an iPad2 ?
Maybe people feel they will be left behind if they don't stay up with the latest gadgets ?

There are people that are just not happy with "last year's model". Same goes for vehicles.
Ya think ? I think they had a term for that in the 60's.
Its "Keeping up with the Jones" I think. just saying..
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Old 11-20-2011, 03:43 AM
 
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So what is Elizabeth Warren talking about?
She dosnt realy know she's an isolated acedemic that is clueless about real life. Hopefully she stays one. and dosnt become a senator.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:18 AM
 
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That's why the middle class can't afford iphones, plasma tvs, suvs, bigger homes, multiple cars, eating out, going to movies, brand name clothing, jewelry.... oh wait a minute... they can and do... life must be horrible for them, lets go back to the 1960's when taxes were high and they had one car, one television, non-brand name clothing, and all of it in a 1200 sq foot home while still not pay for their kids college education...
Much of the poor have some of these items also.

The only difference is the middle class pay for these things themselves. The poor use government redistribution to obtain these things.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:47 AM
 
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Is this true? Is wage stagnation really a myth?



The Myth of Middle-Class Stagnation — The American Magazine
well, he is defining the "rich" as "the annual income of the top 5%." Why? The 1%-5% crowd earns an average of $200,000 / year.

Even out of the "top 1%" the bottom half of that is talking about $500k/year earners. Very well off, $1 million / year earners.

the top 0.1 or even 0.01% are where the unusual wealth gains have been going during the 'easy Fed money' years.






http://visualizingeconomics.com/2011...-income-share/

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Old 11-20-2011, 05:52 AM
 
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Your not "hip" if you don't have the newest Ipad. Heck you can text everybody from the line your waiting in to get it from you new iphone too. Now that's double cool. Then post it on facebook to everybody from an OWS protest and your fonzie!!
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Old 11-20-2011, 06:03 AM
 
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So what is Elizabeth Warren talking about?

The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class - YouTube
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