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Old 11-22-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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The Federal Reserve told the largest U.S. banks on Tuesday to test their loan portfolios and trading books against a severe recession and a European market shock.

The most severe point of the test will assume a 13 percent unemployment rate and an 8 percent decline in U.S. gross domestic product.
Some 31 bank-holding companies are being asked as part of their 2012 capital plan review to project revenues, losses and capital positions through the end of 2013 using four different scenarios, two provided by the Fed and two defined by the bank.


All start in the fourth quarter of this year and go through the last quarter of 2014, taking into account loan-loss reserves at the end of 2013. Each Fed scenario for the U.S. variables includes five measures of economic activity and prices, four aggregate measures of asset prices or financial conditions and four measures of interest rates. The six largest banks will also have their trading portfolios tested against a “global market shock,” the Fed said.

The Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review has become a centerpiece of the U.S. central bank’s heightened oversight of the largest banks. It is also an exam of decision making by bank management and boards. The Fed is assessing how well they understand their risks and demands on earnings and capital from new standards coming from both international accords and the Dodd-Frank act in the U.S.

“The aim of the annual capital plans, which build on the CCAR conducted earlier this year, is to ensure that institutions have robust, forward-looking capital planning processes that account for their unique risks, and to help ensure that institutions have sufficient capital to continue operations throughout times of economic and financial stress,” the Fed said in a statement.

The decision to make the scenario public before the tests began marks a step toward greater transparency in supervision by the Fed. The central bank didn’t disclose the scenarios when it started its 2011 stress tests in November last year. The Fed completed those tests in March.

The Fed will also publish the results of the tests for the 19 largest bank holding companies. Six institutions with large trading operations will have to estimate potential losses from a hypothetical “global market shock,” the Fed said. That shock will be based on market price movements seen during the second quarter of 2008, the Fed said, and include a scenario involving “sharp market price movements in European sovereign and financial sectors.”

The Fed said it would publish the results of the market shock scenario of the six institutions.
Source: Top U.S. banks told to stress test against severe recession | Investing | Financial Post
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Maine
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Did you notice this was announced only after the markets closed today?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Are they trying to figure out how many trillion more of our dollars they are going to need to get them through 2012?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Isn't that what banks are supposed to do?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How much faith do you have in these so called stress tests ?
Has any bank failed yet ?
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:43 PM
 
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How much faith do you have in these so called stress tests ?
Has any bank failed yet ?
lol
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:44 PM
 
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The premise of the stress test seems to be false since real unemployment is much higher currently than 13% (likely at least 20%). The forcast is that 9% UE rate is the new norm for many years to come along with GDP growth at or under 2-3% for at least the next 4-5 years if not a decade.
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Old 11-22-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The Federal Reserve told the largest U.S. banks on Tuesday to test their loan portfolios and trading books against a severe recession and a European market shock.

The most severe point of the test will assume a 13 percent unemployment rate and an 8 percent decline in U.S. gross domestic product.
Some 31 bank-holding companies are being asked as part of their 2012 capital plan review to project revenues, losses and capital positions through the end of 2013 using four different scenarios, two provided by the Fed and two defined by the bank.


All start in the fourth quarter of this year and go through the last quarter of 2014, taking into account loan-loss reserves at the end of 2013. Each Fed scenario for the U.S. variables includes five measures of economic activity and prices, four aggregate measures of asset prices or financial conditions and four measures of interest rates. The six largest banks will also have their trading portfolios tested against a “global market shock,” the Fed said.

The Comprehensive Capital Analysis and Review has become a centerpiece of the U.S. central bank’s heightened oversight of the largest banks. It is also an exam of decision making by bank management and boards. The Fed is assessing how well they understand their risks and demands on earnings and capital from new standards coming from both international accords and the Dodd-Frank act in the U.S.

“The aim of the annual capital plans, which build on the CCAR conducted earlier this year, is to ensure that institutions have robust, forward-looking capital planning processes that account for their unique risks, and to help ensure that institutions have sufficient capital to continue operations throughout times of economic and financial stress,” the Fed said in a statement.

The decision to make the scenario public before the tests began marks a step toward greater transparency in supervision by the Fed. The central bank didn’t disclose the scenarios when it started its 2011 stress tests in November last year. The Fed completed those tests in March.

The Fed will also publish the results of the tests for the 19 largest bank holding companies. Six institutions with large trading operations will have to estimate potential losses from a hypothetical “global market shock,” the Fed said. That shock will be based on market price movements seen during the second quarter of 2008, the Fed said, and include a scenario involving “sharp market price movements in European sovereign and financial sectors.”

The Fed said it would publish the results of the market shock scenario of the six institutions.
Source: Top U.S. banks told to stress test against severe recession | Investing | Financial Post
Its just a test, this is only a test to make sure banks can find where their butts are weak at, so we don't have a completel collapse. Its like putting smoke around your windows, to discover where you have leaks, you have a little fire.

I think this is a good thing. The economy will collapse, or not, regardless of what we do. This test doesn't mean they are expecting a collapse, or that if one happens it'll be that bad.

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Old 11-22-2011, 05:46 PM
 
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Stress test is to just give the appearance that they are doing something... reality is something else... the point of it? For the feds to read between the lines while the public has no clue and think everything is okay...
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Old 11-22-2011, 06:03 PM
 
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Stress test is to just give the appearance that they are doing something... reality is something else... the point of it? For the feds to read between the lines while the public has no clue and think everything is okay...
More likely the purpose is to help predict if the next go round the "too big to fail" banks will need to be nationalized, as is about to happen via the IMF in Europe.

The MF Global/CME debacle should be a huge wake up to everyone as to the risk their money is in even when in what are supposed to be relatively safe accounts. The theft of billions has occured and those with accounts have little recourse at this time. Yet, Corzine walks about like a free man. If the public isn't clued in by now there is little hope for them.
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