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Old 11-25-2011, 04:04 PM
 
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Clinton was busy fending off PNAC who was pressuring him to invade Iraq BEFORE 9-11. Clinton would have prevented 9-11, whereas Bush allowed PNAC to have their 'war on terror' by allowing the so-called terrorist to fly the planes into the towers (though Mossad planted the explosives).
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Old 11-25-2011, 05:30 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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hindsight is 20/20.

Bush had 8 countries warn him about an attack from the air and he did nothing. and yet you want to blame Clinton... typical Repug shuffle the blame.
I think we're going to see more and more of this attempt at re-writing history the closer we get to the 2012 election. The writing is on the wall with the **** poor selection of republi-thug candidates and this is just an attempt to divert the attention to a "failing" by a Dem president to get OBL and possibly prevent 9/11.

The fact is that Bush ignored warnings that OBL was going to strike, possibly using airplanes to do so, and he was more interested in taking another vacation to his "ranch" at Crawford than taking care of business. And then after 9/11, instead of staying focused on Afghanistan where he may have actually found OBL ("I don't know where he is. I really don't think about him."), he took the opportunity to go into Iraq using falsified intel so he could prove to his "daddy Bush" that he could finish the job that his daddy didn't.

Desperation is the republi-con party.
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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I think we're going to see more and more of this attempt at re-writing history the closer we get to the 2012 election. The writing is on the wall with the **** poor selection of republi-thug candidates and this is just an attempt to divert the attention to a "failing" by a Dem president to get OBL and possibly prevent 9/11.

The fact is that Bush ignored warnings that OBL was going to strike, possibly using airplanes to do so, and he was more interested in taking another vacation to his "ranch" at Crawford than taking care of business. And then after 9/11, instead of staying focused on Afghanistan where he may have actually found OBL ("I don't know where he is. I really don't think about him."), he took the opportunity to go into Iraq using falsified intel so he could prove to his "daddy Bush" that he could finish the job that his daddy didn't.

Desperation is the republi-con party.
The only problem with your post is that history goes with what I said, not what you wish it said.
Bill and Al also enabled China to use nukes to hit any city on our nation after fixing their missile problems and their guidance systems through loral.

Look those goodies up as well.
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Pa
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More twisted history and hyperbole out of those who want to blame anyone but their party and those who have direct responsibility.

The only person who had a real chance to kill UBL was Bush at Tora Bora and he let him get away. Those are the facts and that is something that history will show to be the case despite the spin game others want to attempt to play.
You need to study a little history yourself.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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You need to study a little history yourself.
Again, you don't want to know what happened under Clinton.

#1 Osama declared war on the USA.
#2 A foreign government offered Bin Laden on a plate to Clinton who did not take him.
#3 Other times they had him with drones that were armed and again Clinton let him go.

After that we got thousands dead in 9-11 and the cause of the War on Terror enabled by Bill Clinton.

Add the Chinese repair to their missiles and guidanced systems by Loral directed by Gore and Clinton so they could finally reach more than Alaska and now accurately kill us all and you get the worst President in history. Even worse than Obama and Carter because though they destroy economies, Clinton actually enabled a nuclear threat against us.

Of course Obama is enabling soon Iran and that could perhaps tie him for worst with Clinton in the future.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: not Chicagoland
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Again, you don't want to know what happened under Clinton.

#1 Osama declared war on the USA.
#2 A foreign government offered Bin Laden on a plate to Clinton who did not take him.
#3 Other times they had him with drones that were armed and again Clinton let him go.

After that we got thousands dead in 9-11 and the cause of the War on Terror enabled by Bill Clinton.

Add the Chinese repair to their missiles and guidanced systems by Loral directed by Gore and Clinton so they could finally reach more than Alaska and now accurately kill us all and you get the worst President in history. Even worse than Obama and Carter because though they destroy economies, Clinton actually enabled a nuclear threat against us.

Of course Obama is enabling soon Iran and that could perhaps tie him for worst with Clinton in the future.
You're really out on a limb especially since you can't get your facts straight. But since you were the one foolish enough to bring it up, let's look at the many governments that were supported or overthrown and replaced with our help only to turn on us.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:58 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Bill Clinton remains unbelievably popular.
due to the economy properly being #1 with Americans, same thing in reverse hurting Obama.

But BC's foreign policy record stunk. His record on being proactive and intelligent regarding terrorism stunk.
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Old 08-11-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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Bin Laden declared war against us during the Clinton administration and made a first try and the twin towers then as well.

Clinton had Bin Laden twice at least and let him go. If Clinton had killed Bin Laden the times he had the chance to there would probably have been no War on Terror, no money spend and probably mostly none of our soldiers and allies killed.

Thank Bill Clinton for 911 folks.

Want links, look them up in the news all over google.
They had Osama Bin Laden and let him go after he declared war on us.

Bill Clinton let this cancer of Bin Laden survive and we later got the war on terror and 911.

Facts are facts folks.
Don't give Bill Clinton too many pats on the back.
He may have loved BJs from young girls in the White House, but he sure didn't fulfill his duty as President to protect this country IMO.
Yes he did let Bin Laden go when he had the chance to get him and stop him. Then again so did Bush Jr. he had to the chance to get him too at Tora Bora but instead of immediately sending our soldiers out he let them have one more night with their families. That was reported, when reported he was trapped in the cave, and I heard it righ out of Bush's mouth on TV before our US soldiers got there. Never trust the people who fear your enemy to detain your enemy.

Oops, sorry txgolfer130 I didn't see your previous post about Tora Bora until now.

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Old 08-11-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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Yes he did let Bin Laden go when he had the chance to get him and stop him. Then again so did Bush Jr. he had to the chance to get him too at Tora Bora but instead of immediately sending our soldiers out he let them have one more night with their families. That was reported, when reported he was trapped in the cave, and I heard it righ out of Bush's mouth on TV before our US soldiers got there. Never trust the people who fear your enemy to detain your enemy.

Oops, sorry txgolfer130 I didn't see your previous post about Tora Bora until now.
There was no reports of armed drones, governments offering Bin Laden to Bush or troops who said they saw Laden. There were rumors which could be true that while were were doing one thing he may have slipped out doing something else. We don't know, for all we know he could have already been in Pakistan.

The thing we DO know is that if Bill Clinton did his job any one of about three times there would be no War on Terror or 9/11 because Laden could have been in custody or dead a decade ago or more.
Clinton did not take Bin Laden when offered. He did not once or twice kill him when he had him in his sites in an armed drone.
Bush did NOT have a similar opportunity.
No one knew or had Bin Laden directly surrounded or in hand under Bush. At that point they were hiding and stopped even using cell phones.
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Lets not forget who actually armed not only Bin Ladin and his merry men but also Saddam, thats right none other than the Republican God----Ronald Reagan. So actually 9/11 and Iraq are all his fault.
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