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Old 12-08-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Very interesting take.. to see trade with nations less than scrupulous about forced labor as an
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end run around 14th amendment importing slave labor from 3rd world
I'm a free market, free trade guy but I'm going to remember that. It articulates plainly a vague thought I've had for a long time that has often bugged me. Thanks.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:52 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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No...but humans are basically lazy and if offered something for nothing,will take it.
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Old 12-09-2011, 02:36 AM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I can remember when we had no food stamps, but rather commodities. They were nutricious, but, tasted like crap. It was sure motivation to go to work to afford better food. Lyndon Johnson led us down the road to the "Great society", initializing more entitlements than any other president of this century. In my mind, he is the one president most responsible for the situation we find ourselves in today. He may have been a Texan, but he was dang sure a sorry one.
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Old 12-09-2011, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Social Security: Drifting Off Course (Fortune, 1967) - Fortune Features
I recently ran across this old article about Social Security. It was designed the way it was, as 'social insurance' rather than simply thrown into the general fund because as late as the 1930's:

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Not even the trauma of the depression had overcome the Puritan strain in the American ethos, which held to the precept that hard work and thrift would always be rewarded and that turning to public charity--even in times of general economic disaster--was a disgrace. Even those who most needed help were unwilling to accept a permanent pension system that smacked of a government dole. And so the plan was packaged as one whose chief aim was, not relief for needy older Americans, but "insurance
Things gradually changed of course, and now turned on their head to the point where a female with 15 kids says 'someone has to be held accountable' with no sense of irony.
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Old 12-09-2011, 06:07 PM
 
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Perhaps if we begin to learn the meaning of the word "sacrifice" again we can stop demanding that the government give us everything we want like children begging mommy for some candy.


Amen It's just to bad that America won't get the message until the US is bankrupt cause Americans think they are "entitled ".
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Old 12-09-2011, 10:17 PM
 
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I would think Americans have always felt some sort of entitlement. Especially from the Native American perspective...
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