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#1, i'm not on the left, because i support free markets moreso than conservatives. The far right wants the state to subsidize private industry.
#2, the right wants government to protect assetholders and large corporations.
#3, the right only wants capitalism for the common man; it wants corporate socialism for the connected elite.
#4,
1. If you support free markets more than conservatives, then
a. you want to ban the EPA
b. you want to eliminate most federal regulations
c. you want to decrease corporate taxes
d. you don't want a minimum wage law
e. you are opposed to Obamacare
f. you are anti-union and for a national right to work act
2. The "right" wants a very small government and does not need government "help" that liberals crave. I am afraid that you have it 180 degrees wrong.
3. Corporate socialism? You mean like Obama rewarding GE and all the cronies who put him into office?
The "right" wants-
a. reduced corporate taxes
b. minimmal federal regulations
c. no Obamacare
d. minimal intereference from unions
e. does not need federal subsidies
4. Still waiting for those executives and professionals protesting at OWS
You are a left wing idealogue who has never made a conservative post on this site. To call yourself "middle of the road", "moderate", or "independent" would be a grave misnomer. When, if ever, have you ever voted for a republican political candidate?
If you look like a duck and walk like a duck, chances are that you are a duck.
1. If you support free markets more than conservatives, then
a. you want to ban the EPA
b. you want to eliminate most federal regulations
c. you want to decrease corporate taxes
d. you don't want a minimum wage law
e. you are opposed to Obamacare
f. you are anti-union and for a national right to work act
a. No, because the EPA protects property rights, which is a basic function of government. Pollution doesn't recognize property boundaries, and what someone does on their property affects the property rights of others.
b. Not necessarily. Some federal regulations exist to support free markets. Antitrust regulations are the first that come to mind.
c.Corporations have been paying a decreasing share of tax revenue over the years, and regardless, this has nothing to do with free markets. Having low corporate taxes is not a free market principle, it is a supply-side neoconservative principle.
d. I'd be fine with no minimum wage law.
e. Repealing Obamacare would not bring us back to a free market healthcare system.
f. Yup. I support a national right to work act, I hate public sector unions, and i passively boycott private sector unions.
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3. Corporate socialism? You mean like Obama rewarding GE and all the cronies who put him into office?
I never said Dems do, or do not support corporate socialism.
I simply said that Republicans DO support it.
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The "right" wants-
a. reduced corporate taxes
b. minimmal federal regulations
c. no Obamacare
d. minimal intereference from unions
e. does not need federal subsidies
a. Is backwards, because corporate taxes are too low, and personal taxes are too high. This is why I say they are wh*res for big business.
b. Only "minimal federal regulations" when it helps their profits. How many big corporate types would like to see the Fed discount window closed, and the banking system return to full-reserve. ZERO. That's the motherlode of corporate socialism; the goose that laid the golden egg.
c,d,e, same crap we've already discussed.
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4. Still waiting for those executives and professionals protesting at OWS
i wouldn't hold my breath for a response on that.
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You are a left wing idealogue who has never made a conservative post on this site.
You aren't a conservative, you're a big business Republican, and thus are not qualified to make such a call.
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When, if ever, have you ever voted for a republican political candidate?
I voted for Bush, which was a mistake.
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a. No, because the EPA protects property rights, which is a basic function of government. Pollution doesn't recognize property boundaries, and what someone does on their property affects the property rights of others.
b. Not necessarily. Some federal regulations exist to support free markets. Antitrust regulations are the first that come to mind.
c.Corporations have been paying a decreasing share of tax revenue over the years, and regardless, this has nothing to do with free markets. Having low corporate taxes is not a free market principle, it is a supply-side neoconservative principle.
d. I'd be fine with no minimum wage law.
e. Repealing Obamacare would not bring us back to a free market healthcare system.
f. Yup. I support a national right to work act, I hate public sector unions, and i passively boycott private sector unions.
I never said Dems do, or do not support corporate socialism.
I simply said that Republicans DO support it.
a. Is backwards, because corporate taxes are too low, and personal taxes are too high. This is why I say they are wh*res for big business.
b. Only "minimal federal regulations" when it helps their profits. How many big corporate types would like to see the Fed discount window closed, and the banking system return to full-reserve. ZERO. That's the motherlode of corporate socialism; the goose that laid the golden egg.
c,d,e, same crap we've already discussed.
i wouldn't hold my breath for a response on that.
You aren't a conservative, you're a big business Republican, and thus are not qualified to make such a call.
I voted for Bush, which was a mistake.
So, in total it appears as though you are a liberal. With the exception of wanting a federal right to work act and elimination of the minimum wage, you folllow the party line in lockstep.
So, in total it appears as though you are a liberal. With the exception of wanting a federal right to work act and elimination of the minimum wage, you folllow the party line in lockstep.
Your weak rebuttal is duly noted.
to be fair, most of the issues i'm vocal about on this forum, are "liberal" issues: pro-environment, anti-fractional reserve banking, and anti-supply-side economics. However in my mind this just means we should be far more conservative in how we "spend" the US dollar (and conservative about how we allow banks to lend out U.S. credit). I consider this from a perspective of public debt, private debt, and taxes, and spending, all in one.
I feel i'm a conservative in the grand scheme of things, pro free markets, free trade, and pro-family. I just am of a different background than a lot of today's republicans and that gives me a different perspective on what those words mean. I identify quite a bit with Ron Paul, I just have somewhat different ideas about key pieces of the economy, and how they work.
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