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Old 12-12-2011, 12:33 PM
 
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"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
--Zuheir Mohsen, leader of PLO faction Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Stunning declaration coming from the 8th Palestinian National Congress:
"Jordan is linked to Palestine by a national relationship and a national unity forged by history and culture from earliest times. The creation of one political entity in East Jordan and another in Palestine would have no basis either in legality or as to the elements universally accepted as fundamental to a political entity."
--(R. Hamid (ed.) Muqararat al-majlis al-watani al-filastini 1964 Resolutions of the PNCs 1964-1974, Beirut, PLO Research Centre, 1975, p178 Declaration of the 8th Palestinian National Congress)



"There is no such country [as Palestine].... Palestine is a term the Zionists invented.... Our country was for centuries part of Syria."
--Awni Abd al-Hadi, Political figure in a statement to Peel Commission
Awni Abd al-Hadi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"There is no difference between one Palestinian and another. We are all Palestinians and we are all Syrian Arabs."
--Abdulwahab Darawshe, Israeli Arab member of parliament


"We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds."
--The First Congress of Palestinian Muslim-Christian Associations
Palestinian people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria."
--Ahmed Shuqeiri, First Chairmain of the PLO
Founding the Palestine Liberation Organization | Palestine Facts






Who are we to argue with them?
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Austin
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So? Texans are Americans. If Mexico came to overthrow Texas' government and eject everyone or put them in refugee camps, would you be fine with it because Texans could just go to California or New York to be with other Americans?

Do you have to have an internationally recognized name for the place you live in order to not be kicked out of your ancestral homeland?
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:46 PM
 
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So? Texans are Americans. If Mexico came to overthrow Texas' government and eject everyone or put them in refugee camps, would you be fine with it because Texans could just go to California or New York to be with other Americans?

Do you have to have an internationally recognized name for the place you live in order to not be kicked out of your ancestral homeland?
Not a fair comparison.. How about if the OWS protesters claimed ownership to the lands they occupy, and then we kick them off.. Does this mean the OWS protesters should be classified as some special group?
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Austin
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No, because the OWS protesters weren't living on that land with their families for generations before being kicked out by invaders.
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Old 12-12-2011, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Newt Gingrich and the "Invented" Palestinian People :: Daniel Pipes
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Everyone from the PLO to a Mitt Romney spokesman jumped on Gingrich for this assertion, but he happens to be absolutely correct: no Arabic-speaking Muslims identified themselves as "Palestinian" until 1920, when, in rapid order this appellation and identity was adopted by the Muslim Arabs living in the British mandate of Palestine.
Biography of Daniel Pipes
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Daniel Pipes is president of the Middle East Forum and Taube distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution of Stanford University. His bi-weekly column appears regularly in the National Review and in newspapers around the globe, including the Jerusalem Post and Yisrael ha-Yom (Israel), Al-Akhbar (Iraq), Die Welt (Germany), La Razón (Spain), Liberal (Italy), National Post (Canada), and the Australian..

[Website] ...it is of the Internet's most accessed sources of specialized information on the Middle East and Islam.
They are just people who live in the area referred to as Palestine. Just as Jews also live in that same area called Palestine. There's NOTHING ancient about living in Palestine.

Palestinian Arabs - Yes. Palestinian Jews - Yes. Palestinian Palestinians - No such thing.
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Old 12-12-2011, 05:14 PM
 
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Anyone who lived in the area before 1948 was Palestinian no matter if they were Jewish, Arab, Druze, etc. Jordan was part of the British Mandate on the area called Palestine. So definitely Jordan is part of the Palestinian area besides it has a majority of Palestinians as part of its population.
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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That may be correct, but does it solve the conflict?
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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I don't think this solves anything, but it does validate what Gingrich has said. It's refreshing to see someone with the cojones to say the truth.
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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That may be correct, but does it solve the conflict?
Not only doesn't it have to solve the conflict--it wasn't meant to. The comment was meant to keep Gingrich's name in the news because (what a surprise!) he has ideas about becoming our next President. He's just trying to plant the ideas in peoples' heads that foreign policy is not out of his scope.
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So? Texans are Americans. If Mexico came to overthrow Texas' government and eject everyone or put them in refugee camps, would you be fine with it because Texans could just go to California or New York to be with other Americans?

Do you have to have an internationally recognized name for the place you live in order to not be kicked out of your ancestral homeland?
You are being absurd.
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