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Old 12-26-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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there are "real" service dogs. that are trained to help people. there are also dozens of places on line where for 20 bucks you can get your pet dog a vest and a patch so that he looks like a "real" service animal and take him in to places that otherwise don't allow animals. this registry in the op is a scam.
None of your business unless you are certified to make judgement.

 
Old 12-26-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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When will the authorities learn the common sense of "Punish the deed, not the breed?!"
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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You're no doubt sitting there eating a steak while you put forth your righteous indignation. If a dog had the ability to understand what you were doing he'd be looking at you rolling their eyes at your feigned outrage while eating a systematically murdered cow 10 - 30 times a year.
Brilliantly put.
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:03 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Same thing happened in Denver (where Pits are now banned), and the man was able to get his dog back through a lawsuit... in that case he was a war veteran, who used the dog to help with his PTSD and anxiety. Whether you guys believe it or not, there are many service dogs who have purposes other than guiding the blind - and if it's a legitimate service dog, they are violating ADA laws by removing it. So if this Iowa story is anything like the one in Denver, he should win his case against the state.
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:09 PM
 
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None of your business unless you are certified to make judgement.
this is a public forum where we post our opinions. mine are as valid as yours. are you ok with people who use fake service animals to get around the law?
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:13 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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this is a public forum where we post our opinions. mine are as valid as yours. are you ok with people who use fake service animals to get around the law?
You're changing the subject, though... the other poster was saying you can't pass judgment without information, so that indicates nothing regarding if they're okay with "fake" service dogs. Point being, you don't know if this guy's dog served a legitimate need or not. Do you think service dogs only guide the blind?
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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And before you ask, no I'm not okay with people who abuse the system... but again, we don't know the guy in the story well enough (at all) to judge.
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:18 PM
 
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You're changing the subject, though... the other poster was saying you can't pass judgment without information, so that indicates nothing regarding if they're okay with "fake" service dogs. Point being, you don't know if this guy's dog served a legitimate need or not. Do you think service dogs only guide the blind?
the registry listed in the op is one on a list of fake registries. send in 20 bucks and you too can get a patch and a vest for your pet dog. I object to people who want their pet to be the exception to the rules and send away for a certificate claiming they are therapy dogs when in fact they are not.

therapy and service dogs are used for all sorts of reasons and they are trained and certified by a legit organization. which I fully support. however that doesn't seem to be the case in the op.
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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You are implying that the police officer went through a fake registry? Do you know this as fact?

Pit bulls are NOT dangerous dogs if they are raised properly. The PEOPLE who raise them improperly and abuse them are the ones who are making a bad name for pit bulls everywhere.

Where is the outrage from those of the "pitbulls are dangerous" crowd against those people!?

Pit bulls used to be known as the family dog, much like the Golden Retriever is, today.

Little Rascals...all those kids around a pit bull. The horror!

EVERY dog can bite. EVERY dog can be "dangerous" if it is treated improperly and/or abused/neglected/tortured and not trained.

We kill over a million pit bulls every single year...shouldn't they be afraid of US!
 
Old 12-26-2011, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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My only comments are (as the owner of 2 large breed dogs who have AKC CGC certification and are used both as a therapy dog and for children's reading programs in libraries):

Being "registered" with The National Service Animal Registry is as easy as 1-2-3.
You say you are disabled.
You say you dog is trained.
You pay $65 dollars.
Your dog is registered.

So (to me) using them as a reference for any dog, pitbull or poodle, is suspect.


What the city needs to do is set up standards for the testing and licencing of service dogs.
Then it's purely in the hands of the owner and dog, if it meets such standards.

Last edited by plannine; 12-26-2011 at 08:04 PM..
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