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View Poll Results: Do you feel it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural?
Yes 292 50.34%
No 256 44.14%
I am unsure 32 5.52%
Voters: 580. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-04-2012, 10:42 AM
 
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The comparison is really not that hard to figure out. As one of my teachers used to say, put your thinking cap on.
um, i'm gay and i've never robbed a bank. being gay is an inborn trait that wasn't chosen.. what does that have to do with robbing a bank?

does having blond hair have to do with robbing a bank too?
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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Oh please. How is "disagreeing" with me - and I'm not talking about "disagreeing" with me in the sense of disagreeing with a position I hold, or an opinion I have - but actually "disagreeing" with ME: "disagreeing" with my existence, my humanity, the core component of my being that dictates how I form intimate relationships with other human beings - not hate?

Telling a gay person you "disagree" with homosexuality is similar to telling a black person you "disagree" with black skin.
No it isn't....because "black skin" is not carrying out actions through impulse.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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That was not the question.
The question is do you believe it is normal or abnormal to be homosexual.

If your child had dyslexia, would you just not do anything to correct it and tell them that it is just a normal thing to have dyslexia? Or would you try to fix it. It has nothing to do with if you would teach them to hate people with dyslexia.

That is the question being asked with homosexuality.
Say what? You're deigning to compare a treatable learning, comprehending disorder with sexual orientation that could even be geneticly predisposed?

Oh yeah, this'll work fine; teach it out of them!

As if you haven't seen enough suicides and bullying in association with that approach.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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No it isn't....because "black skin" is not carrying out actions through impulse.
Well, to me it is. That's how gay people hear it - that's how our families hear it - that's how the people who love and respect us hear it.

But go ahead. Keep on deluding yourself that your hate is actually just a "disagreement" - or if you're one of those love the sinner, hate the sin types - that your hate is actually "love."
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: California
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Oh, I understand more than you think. You mean you believe you need to get to them first and instill your prejudices and biases before they are exposed to the real world. Making certain that they carry on your beliefs. Time people like you expand your horizons, you are not any better than anyone else on this planet.
So you shouldn't pass on anything to your children? good morals? Good work ethics? and on and on, ok
In my post I clearly said a parent should pass on THEIR beliefs to their children so if they were to believe killing is wrong they shouldn't express it huh? Or if they believe Homosexuals are normal Huh? you read your own meaning into others posts your a piece of work.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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Well, to me it is. That's how gay people hear it - that's how our families hear it - that's how the people who love and respect us hear it.

But go ahead. Keep on deluding yourself that your hate is actually just a "disagreement" - or if you're one of those love the sinner, hate the sin types - that your hate is actually "love."
I don't "hate" you...No matter what you choose to believe.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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So you shouldn't pass on anything to your children? good morals? Good work ethics? and on and on, ok
In my post I clearly said a parent should pass on THEIR beliefs to their children so if they were to believe killing is wrong they shouldn't express it huh? Or if they believe Homosexuals are normal Huh? you read your own meaning into others posts your a piece of work.
I didn't say parents should NOT share their beliefs with their kids. What is wrong is to keep them away from differing beliefs. And poisoning the well before such exposure is just as bad. In raising my daughter we never offered an opinion on differing views of the world, we left that up to her to explore. We never said gay is bad, she developed her own views and beliefs on that subject as well as everything else.

I gather from the content of this thread that some believe that any discussion of "gayness" in a public setting should come with a label that states, "gayness" is bad" or "gayness" is unnatural".... IMHO, that is poisoning the well.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:11 AM
 
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It baffles me how many people don't know the meaning of "natural" or "normal" in this thread.

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Old 03-04-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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Its just not normal!!! Period!
Im sorry but WHAT IS "NORMAL"???

Normal is a MADE UP WORD used by a group of people to justify if something is ok.. IT MEANS NOTHING!!
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Im sorry but WHAT IS "NORMAL"???

Normal is a MADE UP WORD used by a group of people to justify if something is ok.. IT MEANS NOTHING!!
Normal | Define Normal at Dictionary.com
1. conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural.
2. serving to establish a standard.
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