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Old 01-09-2012, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Originally Posted by calipoppy View Post
So, Nancy Reagan was a woman of "the people". She was a First Lady during an economic downturn. What about Barbara Bush, Hillary Clinton, Laura Bush...no problem with these First Ladies traveling via private jet. And I suspect that there will not be an issue with the next (White) First Lady traveling via private jet, either.

The only reason that people like yourself have an issue with Michelle Obama is because Black people (no matter theie position) should not have more/do more/live better/etc than White people (even if that White person is living in a trailer park on a patch of dirt)

Congratulations. People like you are keeping racism alive and well. The issue is the waste of flying in a seperate jet from the president going to the same destination because she couldn't be bothered to wait for him for a few hours (Martha's Vineyard). Can you name another FLOTUS who has done the same? Michelle has done it a few times. I know- any and all criticism of the Obama's is due to racism.

 
Old 01-09-2012, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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While America is slowly dying, tens of thousands of multi-millionaires and billionaires are living lifestyles that make the Obama's look like monks that have taken vows of poverty. Steve Jobs lived like an absolute billionaire while hundreds of thousands of his employee's made less than $3.00/dy and worked 17 hour days at that. Just stop this. Please. I am asking nicely. Believe me, if the Obama's were doing anything wrong there would be people with the authority to suggest alternative behavior. It is above yours and my pay grades to second guess how a President and First Lady conduct their lives. I don't see anyone here arguing about how Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Ted Turner, any number of A-List celebrities and athletes live. A president doesn't make much of a salary. The perks, as far as it goes are chump change for the most powerful country ever. When did you realize the country was broke? Before or after Bush spent 12 Trillion dollars trying (and failing) to beat the snot out of enemies that only possessed a 19th Century infrastructure?

H

Seriously? Why should we be concerned how Bill Gates travels? Do we also pay for his air fare?
 
Old 01-09-2012, 06:10 AM
 
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A family member was once involved in a presidential campaign in our county. A president came to town for a rally.

The secret service decided where the rally would be held, the route that was taken from the airport and the hotel where he stayed. They controlled every detail, including security checks on everybody who came within shooting distance. His campaign had no say in where anything took place. Neither did his wife. This was years ago. After 9-11, I'm sure they are even more in control.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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When is the last time you've ever seen a family member of a sitting president fly commerical? It just isn't done. As ovcatto said, the Secret Service would never allow that to happen.
Maybe it's time government groups like the Secret Service joined the real world where there are LIMITS to how much you can spend. Today we have a government that spends whatever it wants, and then sends us the bill. If/when we simply don't have enough tax money to match the infinite appetites of those who don't know the value of money, they play irresponsible games to dump the debt on our children, while hoping the whole house of cards doesn't fall down during THEIR term.

TIMES HAVE CHANGED, WASHINGTON IVORY-TOWER SPOILED BRATS! Filling your swimming pools with the most expensive champaign, far exceeding the luxuries of historic Emperors and Kings in your everyday lives, and other outward manifestations of the contempt you hold toward the citizens who give you power and great wealth, are not going to sit well in the event some citizen gains access to your hallowed holy halls and posts on YouTube.

Politicians don't care that the American workforce slaves to provide endless taxes so that the Washington elite can have fun spending infinite amounts of OPM. They aren't smart enough to realize the damage they did by gutting the job and housing markets and devaluing the dollar is pretty much irrecoverable.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Congratulations. People like you are keeping racism alive and well. The issue is the waste of flying in a seperate jet from the president going to the same destination because she couldn't be bothered to wait for him for a few hours (Martha's Vineyard). Can you name another FLOTUS who has done the same? Michelle has done it a few times. I know- any and all criticism of the Obama's is due to racism.
No, calipoppy is not 'keeping racism alive' but pointing out racism. When there is criticism when, and only when, Mrs. Obama does something -- something many other first ladies have done with no criticism -- one has to wonder what the motivation is. Thinking that the criticism is underlying racial bigotry certainly does come to mind.

Nancy Reagan used Air Force planes for travel and it never made news until one slipped in mud.

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Foreign trips at taxpayer expense by First Ladies are not a new thing, although they're often cast as official visits.

Jacqueline Kennedy's high-profile trip to India and Pakistan opened all kinds of diplomatic doors for the U.S. and Hillary Rodham Clinton's many trips abroad were a warm-up for her role as President Obama's secretary of state.

First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy relaxes on a boat ride on Lake Pichola in Udaipur, India on March 17, 1962. (JFK Library and Museum/REUTERS)

Laura Bush was also a frequent flier who often brought her daughters along for the ride.

Her first foreign foray was a ten-day trip to Paris, Budapest and Prague in 2002 with daughter Jenna, who was then 20.

The White House made sure Laura Bush had at least one "official" event in each city, but she and Jenna spent the bulk of their time at each locale shopping and taking in the sights.


During her husband's second term, Laura Bush also made five goodwill trips to Africa to raise awareness about HIV/AIDS and malaria. But on an African trip in 2007, Laura Bush took Jenna and her other daughter, Barbara, on a safari.

First Lady Laura Bush speaks in Khayelitsha, near Cape Town, South Africa on July 12, 2005. (Charles Dharapak/AP)

Laura Bush also made an official trip to Burma in support of the pro-Democracy movement and another to the Middle East to promote breast cancer awareness.

The former First Lady's last official foreign trip was to Panama. She brought daughter Barbara with her.
LA Times
Yet, you never heard the right-wing radio jocks talking about the Bushes wasting taxpayer money.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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No, calipoppy is not 'keeping racism alive' but pointing out racism. When there is criticism when, and only when, Mrs. Obama does something -- something many other first ladies have done with no criticism -- one has to wonder what the motivation is. Thinking that the criticism is underlying racial bigotry certainly does come to mind.

Nancy Reagan used Air Force planes for travel and it never made news until one slipped in mud.

Yet, you never heard the right-wing radio jocks talking about the Bushes wasting taxpayer money.

So where's the article about past first Ladies taking a seperate jet hours ahead of the President to go to the same destination because they couldn't be bothered to wait?
 
Old 01-09-2012, 07:00 AM
 
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Dogwhistle. I'm surprised you didn't call her a monkey.
Puhleez. I know, with Libs, everything is about race. But since the phrase started with a white woman, your accusation is not just wrong, but also completely disgusting.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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How refreshing to see the usual bigotry and ignorance displayed on the latest edition of "I hate the Obamas" thread.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 07:03 AM
 
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Why is Michelle Obama the ONLY First Lady that you take issue with regarding how she travels?

This is standard operating procedure. Or do you simple have no concern for HER saftey because you can not stand having a Black First Lady? The thought of this Black woman being flown somewhere in a private jet whil you are stuck in "fly over" land must make your blood boil.

Just be honest...
Yeah, all about race. Well, with Libs, anyway.

Couldn't take issue with other first ladies because they travelled with their husbands. I also don't recall them going on vacations disguised as official business.
 
Old 01-09-2012, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Yeah, all about race. Well, with Libs, anyway.

Couldn't take issue with other first ladies because they travelled with their husbands. I also don't recall them going on vacations disguised as official business.
Like cali said, why not just be honest and come out and say you hate Michelle?
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