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Old 01-17-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: The Nanny State of MD
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Okay, obviously some of you have misunderstood me; I THINK THAT THESE GUYS WERE BEING IDIOTS! I think that they deserve a slap on the wrist, not 10+ in prison. It was a stupid thing to do, but I don't think that it is that big of a deal. Why do we all of the sudden care what they think about us? I want to help as many innocent people over there as possible, but most of them don't want it. They like the way they live. They like Sharia Law.
I don't think anything like this is okay, I certainly wouldn't do it, but obviously some people would.

I would wrap them in bacon though.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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Okay, obviously some of you have misunderstood me; I THINK THAT THESE GUYS WERE BEING IDIOTS! I think that they deserve a slap on the wrist, not 10+ in prison. It was a stupid thing to do, but I don't think that it is that big of a deal. Why do we all of the sudden care what they think about us? I want to help as many innocent people over there as possible, but most of them don't want it. They like the way they live. They like Sharia Law.
I don't think anything like this is okay, I certainly wouldn't do it, but obviously some people would.

I would wrap them in bacon though.
Those camel jockeys will be doing the same stuff after we "pull out". Only next time...they may think twice about "fudging" with the USA.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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**** on their critics too
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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"Why do we have a problem with Marines peeing on them again?"

So I suppose you were ok with this;

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3...4/320/1f94.jpg

http://blockyourid.com/~gbpprorg/jud...c/Blackw30.jpg
This is why I don't have a problem with it. Thanks for providing evidence to support my opinion. Truly grateful for your time on this.
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Old 01-17-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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After this post this thread has turned into a "peeing contest" by a few wannabe armchair "warriors" who are full of it. Guess no one took the time to check out the US LOAC. Like "bexendale, as a US Army veteran all I can say is if some of you armchair macho-men were running the show they'd be speaking Pashtun in Kansas City.
Anyone can claim anything Tom on a anonymous forum. Take a look in the mirror. Don't think that just because you post a few tidbits of information regarding military law that gives you any more veracity on here than other posters. Also don't assume that just because other posters don't reference their military background that they have none.
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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What's the big deal?

There shouldn't be any concern with what they did. A dead body doesn't know what's done to it because it's DEAD. It's not a nice thing to do to a dead body but the stress of war can change people.


The only concern there should be is the fact that it has been shown to the whole Nation/World to see. What I feel for are the relatives who may have seen that on the TV or the internet which brings to mind that it's more important to keep this kind of thing quiet and let the soldiers know they . Really does the whole Nation/World have to know what the hell they did to a dead body.
The pictures shouldn't have been printed, that was totally wrong! Who are we to know what these service men have gone through? I'm married to an ex Royal Marines Commando who served 23 years in many trouble spots, he never talks about it but I know it wasn't pleasant. Do you think the Taliban treat prisoners or bodies with respect? They're just clever enough not to print the pictures. Get real!

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Old 01-17-2012, 02:14 PM
 
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I don't think there's such a thing as humane war. Honorable, yes, and desecrating the bodies of fallen enemy soldiers is not honorable.
Desecrating the bodies of the fallen enemy has gone on through out history!
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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How would you feel if the taliban had done this to dead american soldiers? How would you feel if someone peed on your loved ones corpses?

Stop talking out of your ass. Obviously the dead people don't care about being peed on. They're dead!

It's their loved ones, it's the their families.

People view the taliban as less than human, and considering their actions it's not hard to do. But we shouldn't stoop to their level. These people are involved in a war, I don't begrudge american soldiers for killing their enemies. I don't agree with it, but I certainly am not faulting the soldiers for the situation that they are in. I have no doubt that if they had not killed them, they would have been killed.

As disgusting and inhuman as killing another person is, that's warfare. Peeing on corpses though? That's beyond even that. There are a lot of people in the middle east who don't like america... there are also believe it or not, a lot of people who don't like the taliban. Something like this makes those animals seem more sympathetic and it makes us seem more like animals.

That is not something we need. What those soldiers did is a crime and I fully support any punishment they receive.
How do you know what the Taliban do to American corpses? They just don't print the pictures! I think the people who printed the pictures should be done for treason but that's just my opinion!
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:20 PM
 
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As I already stated in my post this should not have gotten on the internet/tv for the Nation/World to see because of their relatives,which you obviously didn't read. So your telling me about it being about their loved ones is a stupid statement to make to me. You are just telling me what I already said. Asking me how I would feel is a stupid question when I already said the concern is putting this on the internet/world for everyone to see, that includes their relatives. Obviously since I already pointed that fact out I wouldn't like to see that on a relative of mine all over the internet/tv. You need to get your head out of your ass and pay more attention to what you supposedly read.

I agree killing another human is disgusting, inhuman, and I'll add sometimes done in inhumane ways. What I see is that theses soldiers see their own people die everyday. The stress of that is going to take it's toll on them. To make what they did a crime is insane. It show a total lack of respect for our own kind, our own soldiers. I don't care how others view us for what the soldiers did. I'm not condoning them because they did the right thing I'm condoning them because they should never have been filmed and it never should have been shown for the world to see. Had they done this to a living human then I would be furious with them and that would make them no better than the Taliban. They aren't responsible for this getting on the internet/tv the media is responsible for that and they should punished for showing it not the American Soldiers. The actions of peeing on the dead means nothing if it's not plastered all over the nation/world and it isn't done to a living human being. I'm more concerned about important things to be reported like is torture being done and most of all the damn wars to end.
As I've shown by my posts, I agree with you 100%. Well said!
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Old 01-17-2012, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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There’s a problem because urinating on dead bodies isn’t becoming of a service man/woman. Public servants are held to a higher standard. I believe they should be given field grade article 15s and lose at least one rank. And if any of them were NCOs they should get a general discharge for bad conduct.

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Taliban claims it shoots down helicopter in Helmand province - Telegraph

^^^This is the reason why I don't really care that they peed on them, yes they were idiots, but the Taliban deserve much more than that.
Maybe we could stuff their bodies with bacon? No, it'd be a waste of good food.

Oh, and this is just great.
US set to resume peace talks with the Taliban - Telegraph
Thank you President Obama, and his minions for being complete pushovers.
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