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Yes, but the reason for that is in part sexism in society.
Men are viewed as weak or feminine if they are stay at home dads, if they take too much time off work to care for children or elderly parents, or even if they enter careers traditionally dominated by women such as nursing. The reason for this is largely that societal attitudes towards men have not changed from the days in which women faced widespread discrimination based on sex.
No. I don't think anyone sees men as weak or feminine if they stay home, that's ridiculous. And the whole "male nurse" kind of thing is not really true in real life, that I've seen anyway (although it was hilarious in Meet the Fockers).
I don't know where some of you guys come up with this stuff but methinks you are projecting a bit much in your assumptions.
Women are usually the primary caregivers b/c they are more nurturing and affectionate than men. They have maternal instinct. Women start bonding with their children in utero whereas most men bond much more after the baby is born. It is proven that even how men and women handle babies is very different (men are more rough and playful while women are, as I said, more nurturing and careful). It is natural for women to be the primary caregiver. That's how God made us. It was never seen as sexist to say that until the feminist movement.
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Cletus, the media choose to spin this issue, examining women out of the workforce years at a clip as if they are as valuable to an employer who stayed employed the entire time, w/o interruption.
The reality is many stay at homes enjoyed not working, than upon divorce have to go back, and volla..all of a sudden reality returns, and they whine about their difference in salary vs those who stayed in the workforce.
Cletus, the media choose to spin this issue, examining women out of the workforce years at a clip as if they are as valuable to an employer who stayed employed the entire time, w/o interruption.
The reality is many stay at homes enjoyed not working, than upon divorce have to go back, and volla..all of a sudden reality returns, and they whine about their difference in salary vs those who stayed in the workforce.
Well you can just look at how these studies are designed, to see how they are biased.
They don't look at the data to try and objectively determine why women earn less. They correct for a limited number of factors, and assume any resulting gap in pay (which are simply the errors in their model of "employee value") is the "evidence" of gender discrimination.
I think the biggest reason is women tend to be non confrontational, and do not negotiate when it comes to pay raises...
AND, because a boss is in business to maximize profits he'll do anything he can to pay anyone as little as he can. If that means taking advantage of the tendencies of the "fairer" sex, then so be it, right?
With men making the pay rate decisions the "fairer" sex will always be cheated.
Brand new doctors, right out of med school. They should all start on the same footing as regards longevity, experience, education. But they don't. Is it that much-vaunted negotiating skill that men possess and women don't that causes this discrepancy, or is it discrimination against women?
Only about 60% of employees are even covered by FMLA.
California offers six weeks of paid disability "to bond with a new child". Six, not two years.
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It's funny. So many post on here as if the rest of us dropped down yesterday from Mars and I don't mean Mars, Pennsylvania, as if we have no experience in the workforce ourselves.
I have been an RN since 1970. Even today, >90% of RNs are women. Back when I was a young nurse, it was probably more like 98%. Even so, I have worked with many nurses over the years who had long careers in nursing. Of course, with this many women, there are many of childbearing age, who leave the workforce temporarily to have babies. Most of these women return to work after their maternity leaves. This notion that all or most women are on the "mommy track" is a figment of some men's imaginations.
AND, because a boss is in business to maximize profits he'll do anything he can to pay anyone as little as he can. If that means taking advantage of the tendencies of the "fairer" sex, then so be it, right?
With men making the pay rate decisions the "fairer" sex will always be cheated.
There are a lot of female bosses you know.
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