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Old 01-20-2012, 11:51 PM
 
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I see that as a good thing, considering the shape this country was in when Obama took office.

He will leave this country in better shape than it was in when he took office, that is for sure.
Tell us how. Not just a talking point.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Or if you are not Catholic and you want it, just go work somewhere else.
Then let's just tax all of the churches, their property, salaries, etc.
They don't get total exemptions because they believe in fairy tales.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:07 AM
 
Location: California
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And nobody should be forced to buy them either.
I read that many Catholic employers already have this coverage, it's just part of the regular prescription drug plans. Religious exemptions shouldn't infringe on medical coverage. Not all employees are Catholic and Catholics use contraceptives as much as anyone so this is really not much of an issue...it only sounds like one. Like I said, they are still in this country with the rest of us, picking and choosing is silly.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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"Dolan added, “To force American citizens to choose between violating their consciences and forgoing their healthcare is literally unconscionable. It is as much an attack on access to health care as on religious freedom. Historically this represents a challenge and a compromise of our religious liberty.”

"This is nothing less than a direct attack on religion and First Amendment rights,” said Franciscan Sister Jane Marie Klein, chairperson of the board at Franciscan Alliance, Inc., a system of 13 Catholic hospitals."


Cardinal Timothy Dolan of U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Blast Obama Administration for Contraception Mandate | TheBlaze.com

We need to get this man OUT of the White House ASAP. Every day it becomes clearer and clearer that he is destroying our precious freedom.
Why? Does the Bible say that using contraception and other forms of birth control is wrong and immoral for Catholics to have anything to do with? If so, can someone quote Bible verses where this is pointed out?
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Get government out of health care insurance coverage and medical payments!
Yeah, sure, more and more people need to declare medical bankruptcy to keep the government the hell away from paying someone's else's medical bills.
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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How is it then that healthcare providers can exclude pregnancy but because of this can't exclude birth control ?
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Oh man, an ex-Catholic, now we are in trouble.

Just a little link for when you decide to come home wayward soul.


I Used To Be Catholic (http://www.catholicscomehome.org/former-catholic.php - broken link)
Yeah.......thats not happening.
I get that from my family constantly.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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And nobody should be forced to buy them either.
Who is being forced to buy them?
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Old 01-22-2012, 07:15 PM
 
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There are many reliigous people that feel they are. They should not be forced to pay for them.
Once the Catholics protest louder over paying reparations to the victims of the pedophile priests that their Church worked so feverishly to protect from prosecution - then I might take their moral qualms into consideration. Until then, sorry - you don't get to play the "against our moral conscience" card. Not yours.
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Old 01-22-2012, 10:15 PM
 
Location: California
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There are many reliigous people that feel they are. They should not be forced to pay for them.
Sure they should. We all have to do stuff we don't like, it's called living in society.
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