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Old 01-25-2012, 07:25 AM
 
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Is it really that unusual for the military to protect the citizens of the nation? I don't think so.
Yes, it is. Give me just one other similar example. I suspect she is "well connected".
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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Is it?

I'm pretty sure those sailors that the SEALs rescued from the Somali pirates a while back were private citizens. I'm certain there have been other cases, as well.

Why do you think it's "quite unusual"?
That was a commercial ship seizure, quite different.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:27 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Yes, it is. Give me just one other similar example. I suspect she is "well connected".

Here's an example of a US military rescue of *foreign* civilians, even:

Iran welcomes U.S. rescue of sailors from suspected Somali pirates - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

And the other rescue I mentioned, also involving SEALs:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30178013...omali-pirates/
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes, it is. Give me just one other similar example. I suspect she is "well connected".
The military exists for the sole purpose of defending the nation, its interests, and its citizens. Why do you think we have a military?
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:33 AM
 
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If you can't discern the difference in these operations, I really can't help you understand why I'm surprised.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Here's an example of a US military rescue of *foreign* civilians, even:

Iran welcomes U.S. rescue of sailors from suspected Somali pirates - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

And the other rescue I mentioned, also involving SEALs:

Captain freed after snipers kill pirates - World news - Africa - Somalia - msnbc.com
There was a high profile reacue mission of an American business man in Afghanistan in 2008, which was also successful. The truth is that they do it whenever thay can.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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That was a commercial ship seizure, quite different.

Uh, negative. The ship's captain was in a small emergency boat with the pirates when they were killed and he was rescued.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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Never mind. I've started a separate thread on this.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:45 AM
 
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Uh, negative. The ship's captain was in a small emergency boat with the pirates when they were killed and he was rescued.
@Bideshi ... Consider yourself SCHOOLED!!!
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:46 AM
 
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Yes, it is. Give me just one other similar example. I suspect she is "well connected".
The US military has assisted other nations' military forces in the rescue of civilians who are not "well connected." Typically the assistance is in planning and intelligence work and sometimes in supplying helicopters to evacuate the rescued people. Columbia and the Philippines are two such countries where the US has been involved in rescues.

Over 60 US troops were used to rescue a US businessman/engineer taken hostage in Afghanistan.

US troops tried to rescue an aid worker in Iraq, but she died in the rescue attempt.

Typically US military forces have had a secondary, not primary, role and that's probably because most of the other countries have a strong sovereign government with a well-defined institutional military - which is not the case in Somalia.
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