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La Raza, the hispanic hate group that means "the race" opposes English language immersion classes and believes that kids should be able to get an American high school diploma without demonstrating proficiency in English:
First of all, there is more than one organization that calls itself La Raza.
Ms. Malkin is referring to the National Council of La Raza. They interpret "La Raza" as meaning "the people" NOT "the race". Two TOTALLY different things and concepts. (Though I highly douby Ms Malkin knows enough about the history of the hispanic/Chicano rights movementi in this country to know the difference.)
The People. As in "We The People". Get it?
The National Council of La Raza is NOT a hate group.
BTW: "Chicano" means Mexican-American. A Chicano is a citizen of this country with all of the rights of being a citizen.
How does an American manage to get a high school diploma in this country and not speak English? How did she manage to pass English classes? Eh. Truthfully? This is just the kind of future many hispanic lobbying groups want for America: one in which fluent English is optional at best. Unless you have a physical disability such as deafness, anyone who wants to be an American should know English. This sort of linguistic laziness is not acceptable.
Those were my exact thoughts on it.
When I first read the topic title, before coming to the thread, I'm thinking, the person that signed their legal immigration, needs to be fired, but then I see she actually made it through our public education system!!!
A specimen of what is so wrong with Government involvement in our education. No child left behind! pft!
How many presidential candidates have debated each other in another language?
Well...that's true and it isn't. There are places where kids are instructed in their household language. For instance, the Los Angeles County school system has about 140 different household languages they have to deal with. It's just a fact that we are a nation of immigrants and those immigrants come here not speaking English. History has shown that most of them never become proficient in our common language, but their children and grandchildren do.
As we move away from the era of the porous border, Spanish will become less and less common except on that border where family and business ties link both sides. The US/Mexican border has been bi-lingual, if not predominantly Spanish, since the line was drawn in the mid-19th century. Remember, that line literally carved off a piece of Mexico and made it the US, not the other way around. No amount of outrage is going to change that. When they visit their relatives on the other side, or go over there to conduct business, they'll speak a smattering of both languages whether anybody likes it or not. That border has been it's own little world for a long time, resistant to dictates from either DC or DF and they like it that way. Bottom line is: deal with it. It's not gonna change.
In any case, it's important to note that we do not have an official language. We DO however, have the common language of English, but it's use is not mandatory, it's cultural. Consequently, there is nothing illegal about using the common language of the local society in regards to business or politics. That's why in heavily Spanish-speaking areas, we have official documents printed in both languages and it's not illegal.
IF we made English the official language, you'd have defendants in trials not being able to understand what they're charged with, foreclosure documents going unread, banking regulations not understood, lawsuits unanswered and a host of other legal ramifications which would tie up courts forever. That's contrary to our American sense of fair play, especially in regards to criminal charges.
However, since Arizona is one of 28 states which DOES have English as an official language, an appeal of this decision is not likely to succeed without challenging that law. In their particular case, the judge ruled correctly.
By the way, Hawaii is officially a bi-lingual state and nobody seems to object to that. So are the territories of Guam, American Samoa, The Northern Mariana Islands and Puerto Rico, where Spanish is an official language right alongside English.
What does her parents taking her to Mexico have to do with her patriotism?
Would you say John McCain is not a patriot because he was born in the Canal Zone and lived there for awhile as a child? Or, is Norman Swartzkopf not a patriot because he spent a good bit of his teenage years in Iran with his father?
This is just another example of the failure of bilingual education. Give students who don't speak English one year of support in their native language and then put them in English immersion classes. Otherwise you get people like this woman who will simply refuse to learn it because they are lazy. The only thing that unites us is a common language.
Study after study shows you are wrong. Conservatives love to ignore academic research when it doesn't suit their agenda, so I suppose I should not be surprised by your statement.
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Originally Posted by Eleanora1
La Raza, the hispanic hate group that means "the race" opposes English language immersion classes and believes that kids should be able to get an American high school diploma without demonstrating proficiency in English:
The Hispanic hate group? Really? Name something La Raza has done that is hateful.
This is one of the reasons you see people like Ms. Cabrera. How is irrational or unreasonable to demand that someone who graduates from our high schools demonstrate high school level knowlege of English?
The teachers who taught this woman should be fired and her entire school shut down for complete educational failure. No one nation would find this acceptable. Why should we?
You use the words of an anchor baby to support your point?
And how and why would someone become a politician, without knowing the english language. You do not have to see it, but learning english is worthwhile.
I find it a joke that so many want to live the American Dream, but don't want to learn the American Language.
How does an American manage to get a high school diploma in this country and not speak English? How did she manage to pass English classes? Eh. Truthfully? This is just the kind of future many hispanic lobbying groups want for America: one in which fluent English is optional at best. Unless you have a physical disability such as deafness, anyone who wants to be an American should know English. This sort of linguistic laziness is not acceptable.
Well...that's true and it isn't. There are places where kids are instructed in their household language. For instance, the Los Angeles County school system has about 140 different household languages they have to deal with. It's just a fact that we are a nation of immigrants and those immigrants come here not speaking English. History has shown that most of them never become proficient in our common language, but their children and grandchildren do.
As we move away from the era of the porous border, Spanish will become less and less common except on that border where family and business ties link both sides. The US/Mexican border has been bi-lingual, if not predominantly Spanish, since the line was drawn in the mid-19th century. Remember, that line literally carved off a piece of Mexico and made it the US, not the other way around. No amount of outrage is going to change that. When they visit their relatives on the other side, or go over there to conduct business, they'll speak a smattering of both languages whether anybody likes it or not. That border has been it's own little world for a long time, resistant to dictates from either DC or DF and they like it that way. Bottom line is: deal with it. It's not gonna change.
In any case, it's important to note that we do not have an official language. We DO however, have the common language of English, but it's use is not mandatory, it's cultural. Consequently, there is nothing illegal about using the common language of the local society in regards to business or politics. That's why in heavily Spanish-speaking areas, we have official documents printed in both languages and it's not illegal.
IF we made English the official language, you'd have defendants in trials not being able to understand what they're charged with, foreclosure documents going unread, banking regulations not understood, lawsuits unanswered and a host of other legal ramifications which would tie up courts forever. That's contrary to our American sense of fair play, especially in regards to criminal charges.However, since Arizona is one of 28 states which DOES have English as an official language, an appeal of this decision is not likely to succeed without challenging that law. In their particular case, the judge ruled correctly.
By the way, Hawaii is officially a bi-lingual state and nobody seems to object to that. So are the territories of Guam, American Samoa, The Northern Mariana Islands and Puerto Rico, where Spanish is an official language right alongside English.
However did our ancestors from France, Sweden, Germany, Spain, etc., EVER make it in this country? Do you think all these services were available in the 1800's?
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