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Old 02-01-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Indiana becomes 23rd right-to-work state | Reuters



Good for Indiana!

Indiana is the first state to enact right to work legislation since 2001. Hopefully other states will soon follow its lead.

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Old 02-01-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think you should have the right to work and not be forced into a union to have a job.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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Anything that contributes to the demise of union thuggery is a good thing.

That said, right-to-work is kind of a raw deal, too. I don't think an employer should have the right to fire you because you smoke or because they find gingers offensive or you won't work 100 hours a week. There really does need to be a balance struck by which there are SOME protections besides age, gender, race, and orientation.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Anything that contributes to the demise of union thuggery is a good thing.

That said, right-to-work is kind of a raw deal, too. I don't think an employer should have the right to fire you because you smoke or because they find gingers offensive or you won't work 100 hours a week. There really does need to be a balance struck by which there are SOME protections besides age, gender, race, and orientation.
I'm fine with reasonable labor laws. I just think it's better for everyone when the unions have hell of a lot less power.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:14 PM
 
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Another step away from tyranny.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Excellent news for Indiana. Employees will no longer be forced to pay dues to a union simply as a condition of their employment.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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Quoting sports broadcaster Marv Albert...

"Yessss!"
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:18 PM
 
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I don't think it'll make any difference. The percentage of American employees in unions is 8% and dropping. The average American worker has never been in a union, and probably won't be in a union.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:25 PM
 
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I'm fine with reasonable labor laws. I just think unions need a hell of a lot less power.
In my state, schools had to buy health care insurance from a union approved company. After Walker ended the union monopoly our local schools are saving millions a year, just on health insurance.

In Harsdorf's Senate district, MacIver found savings at Ellsworth, Prescott, Menomonie, Somerset and Hudson school districts. The Hudson Superintendent tells 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS her district stands to save more than $800,000.

Report:*Wisconsin Union Changes Saving Schools Millions | KSTP TV - Minneapolis and St. Paul (http://kstp.com/news/stories/S2228485.shtml?cat=5 - broken link)



For example, the Baraboo School District saved approximately $660,000 by switching their coverage from WEA Trust to Dean Health Care (https://app.e2ma.net/app/view:CampaignPublic/id:24830.9327959424/rid:4f6670a3bc5ed1258448c884029069d8 - broken link). Hartford saved over $535,000 by changing carriers. The Kimberly School District saved even more, eliminating $821,000 in costs by dropping WEA Trust. In small districts like Hartford, these savings are impressively large. This echoes trends set in the past six years, as many local school boards have been able to produce savings by switching from longtime carriers.
Other districts, such as Edgerton and Green Lake, stand to save upwards of half a million dollars just by opening their bidding process to competing companies.






Over-priced union-owned insurance in Michigan too: Readers debate whether MESSA insurance for school employees is good value for the money | MLive.com
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Old 02-01-2012, 04:01 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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I'm fine with reasonable labor laws. I just think it's better for everyone when the unions have hell of a lot less power.
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Anything that contributes to the demise of union thuggery is a good thing.

That said, right-to-work is kind of a raw deal, too. I don't think an employer should have the right to fire you because you smoke or because they find gingers offensive or you won't work 100 hours a week. There really does need to be a balance struck by which there are SOME protections besides age, gender, race, and orientation.
And with all due respect, if things keep going the way they're going, those "resonable labor laws" and balance between labor and employers will be swept aside, and die away. I'm not really a union guy, and I understand why people support right to work, but I do understand that they have played an important role in the rise of the middle class and giving workers some kind of dignity. I also believe that the only motivation that Indiana Republicans have behind this is to cripple a political foe.

I often hear the argument that "unions were useful once , but now they're not needed." I disagree. I'd sure like to know who exactly would support the rights of workers once unions are gone. Because it certainly won't be any business owner, that's for sure.

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