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If the union needs people to be forced into being members, then perhaps it doesn't belong. If the union were doing so much to help the workers, why would the workers not choose to join the union?
In my experience I have never seen anyone forced into being a union worker. When our company hires hundreds of people apply for every job knowing it is a union job. That's my experience, not saying it doesn't happen somewhere but why it would happen I have no idea.
Would someone choose to make less money and have less job security?
To serve as a warning to Indiana towns, here's what happened in my Oklahoma town since right to work was passed in 2001:
The right to work promoters were asked what type of jobs would be attracted to Oklahoma, if Right to Work passed. The answer was manufacturing ones. So since 2001 when right to work passed, no new manufacturing plants came to my town. Instead, two huge plants have closed and are vacant where at least 1250 people once worked. It would have been three huge plants standing empty now if a locally established growing company, needing more space, hadn't moved into one of the vacant plants to warehouse its made in China products. But then it's former large building it was headquartered in is still vacant and for sale.
Some cheap paying warehouse jobs came to Oklahoma from the result of Right to Work. Maybe that is what Indiana can look forward to.
Choice is more impotent than unions. Choice is what this country is all about.
Then what would be your choice here? Working in a unionized place where people work for $20 an hour, but all must have 2% deducted from their paychecks to go to the labor union.
Or as a supporter of right to work, would you far rather work in a NON unionized place where people make $9 an hour, but work in freedom from not having to worry about a labor union taking money from you?
LOL? That's amusing. I have been an "office worker" and never felt "abused" by any stretch of the imagination.
How many times did you work more than 40 hours and not get paid for it? How many times did you get passed up for a promotion you worked for and lost it because someone golfs with someone and lets them win?
I've seen that stuff happen in my company. They've offered me non-union jobs and I politely decline. Life is too short, I work to live not live to work.
I've had friends take non-union jobs and every single one of them regrets it. The company screws with them constantly. They pay them just enough so they can't quit but take everything else away.
It's not perfect, I work a lot of holidays and nights and I've worked in 20 degrees below zero on power outages when everyone else is in their warm houses so we all pay a price for what we do. But to do this non-union? Not a chance.
You say unions hurt companies, in my company's case they save them from themselves.
Regarding office workers--I'm just talking about administrative people-I know that many office jobs need to be flexible ect.
the anti labor agenda is being pushed hard across the nation.
we think that if we dont pay workers the economy will get better
LOL.
I would understand if middle managers at GM or Ford or other industrial companies hated their unions. They force them to do their jobs and to treat people fairly when they would love do things their own way to make them look good. Sorry boys, there is the right way and the safe way and sometimes it costs you some money and cuts into your bonus. That's just the way it is.
But I hear all this non-union stuff from guys who work in a cubicle getting abused by their boss daily and making less than I make? Why the hate for the union? It makes no sense.
But look at VW or BMW or Mercedes. They pay their union workers twice what ours make and make them part of the decision making process on design. No wonder they make better cars, have more faithful customers and make more money.
Small minded people in management is a much bigger problem in our country than union people.
In my experience I have never seen anyone forced into being a union worker. When our company hires hundreds of people apply for every job knowing it is a union job. That's my experience, not saying it doesn't happen somewhere but why it would happen I have no idea.
Would someone choose to make less money and have less job security?
When I got my first unionized it was just astounding how much better the pay and benefits were over my former job. I didn't hesitate to become a union member. There was no better way to do something to support my much improved working conditions.
Small minded people in management is a much bigger problem in our country than union people.
This is the most truthful statement I have read in many a moon.
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