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Old 02-02-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Things surely better than balance out when surely a similar high percentage of CEOs give some of their millions to the Republicans.
I'm sure you would be wrong.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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So what went wrong? The Right to Work hucksters said you bring in Right to Work to your state and many high paying JOBS will come rushing in.
Ha! 7 of the top 10 (10 of the top 13) states w/ the most minimum wage jobs are RTW.

RTW = RTB (race to the bottom)
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Please share with us the ulterior motives. Like taking dues from workers then funneling into the Democrat candidates almost 100%? Like forcing workers to join a union or they don't get to work? Like punishing good workers through a practice of rewarding time on the job versus productivity?
But it's against the law to funnel union dues to any political candidate.

If union workers don't like the conditions they work under, they can vote the union out and enjoy a raise in pay.

A lot of non unionized work places take seniority into account when making judgments on who gets promoted.
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Ha! 7 of the top 10 (10 of the top 13) states w/ the most minimum wage jobs are RTW.

RTW = RTB (race to the bottom)
Well, I assume that plenty of Right to Work supporters feel that is much better than having no jobs at all. But then I question, if having more minimum pay jobs added on to the economy makes more people eligible for welfare, like food stamps. President Obama isn't the food stamp president for nothing.
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Old 02-02-2012, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well, I assume that plenty of Right to Work supporters feel that is much better than having no jobs at all. But then I question, if having more minimum pay jobs added on to the economy makes more people eligible for welfare, like food stamps. President Obama isn't the food stamp president for nothing.
Yeah, it's not the offshoring that's removing jobs from the US, it's unions
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Right to work means right to earn less for the same job. The corp. are forcing this so they can pay less and not fear a union action.
I have seen this in action having transfered to a right to work state. The job I had till I retired in 2011 paid $3200 less in the right to work state. Same Company same position. The union state had higher wages even tho I was a union free employee.
The company was aware that a union action could happen if the employees felt they were under paid.In the right to work state the mgt. did not worry about a union action. When I retired I had to read the company handbook to Mgt. and HR to make sure that all benefits were received. Your work group does not have to be in a union to benefit from having the state allow unions. In a right to work state you are loseing the ability to keep mgt. paying you at a proper rate.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Right to work means right to earn less for the same job. The corp. are forcing this so they can pay less and not fear a union action.
I have seen this in action having transfered to a right to work state. The job I had till I retired in 2011 paid $3200 less in the right to work state. Same Company same position. The union state had higher wages even tho I was a union free employee.
The company was aware that a union action could happen if the employees felt they were under paid.In the right to work state the mgt. did not worry about a union action. When I retired I had to read the company handbook to Mgt. and HR to make sure that all benefits were received. Your work group does not have to be in a union to benefit from having the state allow unions. In a right to work state you are loseing the ability to keep mgt. paying you at a proper rate.
Less than 8% of private sector workers are in unions.
It's the public sector that is majority union now..government workers.
Not a major impact.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Ha! 7 of the top 10 (10 of the top 13) states w/ the most minimum wage jobs are RTW.

RTW = RTB (race to the bottom)
Isn't it peculiar how the Republicans can get the poor to argue against unions? I think it proves the old adage:

Misery loves company
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The problem is unions have become more about the union then the worker. Unions played a great role in changing workers laws and fighting for jobs. However the union is no longer about the unions it is about the unions self survival. Workers take a back seat to the union surviving. ex the pilots union as AA. They were more concerned about the union then the workers. Surely the union could see the losses AMR was taking could not be sustained. Unions in the modern day is about the Union and giving money to democrats.
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Old 02-02-2012, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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The Republicans are not thinking about the people, they are taking care of the money behind them. The major impact will be felt in the years to come as people change jobs and find lower earnings. Your elected officals have screwed their voters
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