U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-01-2012, 06:03 PM
 
506 posts, read 469,283 times
Reputation: 701

Advertisements

Especially when the recipient class is receiving more freebies than ever before at the expense of the productive class, while the productive class will never be allowed to collect any of benefits that they actually paid for. Or when the recipient class contributes nothing to society while at the same time demands the productive class give them more and more of their hard-earned money and property? The recipient class gets free food, free housing, free medical care, free education, free childcare, free legal care, free cell phones, free internet service, etc. and the working stiffs of course get the bill.

Does the bashing occur because:
A) Liberals are rotten, heartless people.
B) They follow the Constitution when it's convenient yet ignore the parts about individual liberty and private property.
C) It makes them feel better than those who are smarter, more hard-working and ambitious.
D) They are planning for the day when, of course, they too will be members of the recipient class.
E) The very corporations and interests they implicitly protect have manipulated them in to focusing on those least able to defend themselves as a red herring... "Look over there while I pick your pocket."

But to bash the people who make this country work and relish it? Disgusting.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:09 PM
 
6,932 posts, read 8,093,520 times
Reputation: 3025
Productive?

What has Wall Street produced?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
6,237 posts, read 8,466,840 times
Reputation: 3101
Quote:
Originally Posted by BirchBarlow View Post
Especially when the recipient class is receiving more freebies than ever before at the expense of the productive class, while the productive class will never be allowed to collect any of benefits that they actually paid for. Or when the recipient class contributes nothing to society while at the same time demands the productive class give them more and more of their hard-earned money and property? The recipient class gets free food, free housing, free medical care, free education, free childcare, free legal care, free cell phones, free internet service, etc. and the working stiffs of course get the bill.

Does the bashing occur because:
A) Liberals are rotten, heartless people.
B) They follow the Constitution when it's convenient yet ignore the parts about individual liberty and private property.
C) It makes them feel better than those who are smarter, more hard-working and ambitious.
D) They are planning for the day when, of course, they too will be members of the recipient class.
E) The very corporations and interests they implicitly protect have manipulated them in to focusing on those least able to defend themselves as a red herring... "Look over there while I pick your pocket."

But to bash the people who make this country work and relish it? Disgusting.
Nice deflection thread. "Productive class" and "recipient class" is code speak.

Productive class = wealthy
Recipient class = poor

As if rich people are the only ones who work, and poor people all just sit on their butts. I'll bet you also think that only "job creators" actually create jobs too. Ha!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:20 PM
 
20,976 posts, read 16,272,535 times
Reputation: 10270
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
Productive?

What has Wall Street produced?
A cabinet for 0b0ma.

And why do lefties think that the only productive people are on Wall Street?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:22 PM
 
20,976 posts, read 16,272,535 times
Reputation: 10270
Quote:
Originally Posted by mackinac81 View Post
Nice deflection thread. "Productive class" and "recipient class" is code speak.

Productive class = wealthy
Recipient class = poor

As if rich people are the only ones who work, and poor people all just sit on their butts. I'll bet you also think that only "job creators" actually create jobs too. Ha!
Um, creating ONE job makes one a "job creator".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
6,237 posts, read 8,466,840 times
Reputation: 3101
Quote:
Originally Posted by alphamale View Post
Um, creating ONE job makes one a "job creator".
Well, that's one crappy job creator then. Excuse me if I don't bow down and worship the 1%. I simply don't think they're God's gift to everything.

We need to encourage growth and economic confidence in the middle class instead of kissing up to the so called "job creators"
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
14,969 posts, read 14,220,240 times
Reputation: 4563
Quote:
Originally Posted by mackinac81 View Post
We need to encourage growth and economic confidence in the middle class instead of kissing up to the so called "job creators"
Right, so the middle class needs to not be forced to subsidize the poor and corporations.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:30 PM
 
19,111 posts, read 12,227,026 times
Reputation: 10489
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
Productive?

What has Wall Street produced?
Answer- investment in US companies

However, liberals assault and vilify anyone or anything that is productive, not only Wall Street. Why? Liberals have the strange assumption that wealth is a "zero sum game" and that no one can be wealthy unless someone else is made poor as a result. Obviously, this cannot be so, otherwise there would be a large componant of human civilization living in caves, eating berries and mastadon, while a small componant of the population lived in Beverly Hills and drove Mercedes.

Wealth is not a zero sum game. The simple progress of civilization and the fact that essentially EVERYONE in the US has enough food, shelter (if they want it), and modern appliances. Even the "poor" in the US live like kings relative to the rest of the world or compared to past generations. If "wealth" was a "zero sum game" , this would not be true.


Liberalism provides a rationalization for the those with little education, little effort, or very poor planning to account for thier failures in life. Liberalism caters to the losers in life who would rather blame everyone else, but themselves, for thier failures in life.

Perhaps if one embraced the concept of personal responsibility, maximal effort, and a good work ethic, then liberalism would disappear from the US. As long as there are bums and dead beats who want a handout and an excuse for thier failures, the liberals and democrats will always have a voter base.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:32 PM
 
11,961 posts, read 12,847,484 times
Reputation: 2772
Quote:
Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey View Post
Productive?

What has Wall Street produced?
Globalized grief, strife, hype, mayhem, and legalized corruption aren't productive to your standard of ethics?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-01-2012, 07:34 PM
 
3,438 posts, read 2,553,161 times
Reputation: 1784
I am liberal and part of the "productive" class. Not hating the poor or feeling like greedy CEOs deserve every penny they earn doesn't make a person envious or hateful toward the rich.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top