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Old 02-09-2012, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds View Post
It's the avoiding audits they've done, must be nice to have lawyers to hide your dirty money!!

Hope you didn't have to wait to long!!
That doesn't even make sense. Try it again, in English this time.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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First off compared to the rest of the western world our access to bc for teens,sex education,and abortions is quite restrictive. You will also notice that in those countries the teen pregnancy rate is half of what it is here if not more in some countries.
You are too lucid for what this this thread has morphed into Kitty. What was the topic anyway, I forget.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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You are too lucid for what this this thread has morphed into Kitty. What was the topic anyway, I forget.

Moral of this thread - It doesn't matter if Planned Parenthood saved my life through its cancer screening programs or the lives of thousands of other women through preventative care or screening, you can scream that you are pro-life and take the moral high groung. That is, as long as that life is an undeveloped fetus versus the life of someone (in my case) with 23 years of development, education, responsibilities, relationships, and productivity.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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That doesn't even make sense. Try it again, in English this time.
Some people you have to explain everything thing to......Then for others they call this all minor issues

http://www.aul.org/wp-content/upload...eport_FULL.pdf
The sentiment that it is “too big to fire” is the heart of
Planned Parenthood’s messaging after the House of Representatives voted to prohibit the organization
and its affiliates from receiving federal funds through H.R. 1 on February 18, 2011.

In light of the testimony by Morris and others, and a commitment

Last edited by CaseyB; 02-10-2012 at 05:17 AM.. Reason: copyright
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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In this report, Americans United for Life poses potential questions aimed at uncovering the depth of the problems within Planned
Parenthood.
Do you know what it means to not just use a source that you consider to be infallible just because it agrees with what you already believe? All you are doing is parroting what Americans United for Life state. Provide a credible link that supports with data the claim that there is a possible "national pattern of abuse" and fraud by Planned Parenthood or that "defrauding the American taxpayer . . . [is] part of its calculus for doing business." Surely there are plenty of reliable sources out there to document this.

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Some people you have to explain everything thing to......Then for others they call this all minor issues
And some people are raging idiots who don't know what it means to support a claim.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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In this report, Americans United for Life poses potential questions
aimed at uncovering the depth of the problems within Planned
Parenthood.
LOL. What is that, fair and balanced?



Does this fair and balanced organization have any proof?

PS -- As always, thank you for the opportunity to use my favorite emoticon.
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Old 02-09-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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Planned Parenthood is under investigation only because some crackpot legislator has a burr under his saddle.


That is pure unfounded allegation from said crackpot legislator.

[snip]
Not to mention that Planned Parenthood, as a medical provider, is poked and prodded, inspected, certified and audited by everyone from the county health department to state Medicare and Medicaid overseers. When various chapters of Planned Parenthood have made billing or other mistakes -- and they have, it's no secret -- those mistakes were on the whole found to be quite minor and easily rectified.
From an article about Washington State audit of PP---

The audit was launched after staff with the Washington Department of Social and Health Services grew suspicious of the frequency of clinic visits by Medicaid patients.

“Most birth control clinics will see a woman and usually determine what method of birth control is best and then they will prescribe six months to a year right then and there,” Porter said.

At Planned Parenthood, he said, Medicaid patients were coming in every month.

A less formal review of Planned Parenthood’s Medicaid billing practices last year found that the clinic exceeded typical numbers of visits by women with complicated medical histories.

The audit determined one billing problem associated with Planned Parenthood’s abortion practices. The clinic charged separately for an antibiotic that was already bundled with a group of medicines included in the abortion procedure.

Audit: Planned Parenthood overbilled Medicaid - Spokesman.com - Aug. 12, 2009
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Those PP practices serve several purposes. They get more money into PP coffers, inflate the number of non-abortion 'services' to give the appearance that abortion is a minor part of their business, and in the case of unbundling abortion services, use taxpayer funds for abortion.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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From an article about Washington State audit of PP---

The audit was launched after staff with the Washington Department of Social and Health Services grew suspicious of the frequency of clinic visits by Medicaid patients.

“Most birth control clinics will see a woman and usually determine what method of birth control is best and then they will prescribe six months to a year right then and there,” Porter said.

At Planned Parenthood, he said, Medicaid patients were coming in every month.

A less formal review of Planned Parenthood’s Medicaid billing practices last year found that the clinic exceeded typical numbers of visits by women with complicated medical histories.

The audit determined one billing problem associated with Planned Parenthood’s abortion practices. The clinic charged separately for an antibiotic that was already bundled with a group of medicines included in the abortion procedure.

Audit: Planned Parenthood overbilled Medicaid - Spokesman.com - Aug. 12, 2009
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Those PP practices serve several purposes. They get more money into PP coffers, inflate the number of non-abortion 'services' to give the appearance that abortion is a minor part of their business, and in the case of unbundling abortion services, use taxpayer funds for abortion.
The follow-up.

Spokane's Planned Parenthood fined by state - Spokesman.com - Oct. 29, 2010

There was NO finding of wrong-doing by the Planned Parenthood clinic in question.

The increased frequency of certain patients is not unusual when those patients don't have a designated physician, but instead are served by multiple doctors. Without having an established relationship with a physician, a patient's health issues might change suddenly. The more frequent appointments are meant to offset the lack of a physician-patient relationship.

The antibiotic billing is a non-issue. How clinics, whether they are Planned Parenthood or not, bill for various medications is an internal billing decision dependent on several factors, like which doctors prescribe it, who their supplier is, whether there are certain allergies, side effects, or issues with other medications that affect to whom it is prescribed.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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People for abortion are not going to investigate. At least there's people out there willing to make them accountable for fraud and misleading women down a path of misery.

PP covers up their bad with some good, just like PETA. They need to get back to the basics of health concerns and stop making money on abortions. You people are probably horrified over a hunter killing a deer and praise, less humans in the world.
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Old 02-09-2012, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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From an article about Washington State audit of PP---
We discussed this particular article a few pages back, but you left out the auditor's conclusion:

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“What we hope is that $630,000 is enough tuition to be smarter about how they operate and do business,” he said. “It’s indicative of sloppy billing practices for sure, but it’s not egregious.”
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