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Harry isn't tabling all bills. NDAA flew through Congress.
There's agreement and bipartisanship when there needs to be.
Exactly. They right wingers keep trying to present off the charts biased bills, then blame the dems that it's their fault for not agreeing with it
Hell the GOP shot down their own bill with the Ryan plan.
The GOP in the house needs to get their heads out of their rears, make some cuts, and present something sane. Not just their typical slash everything except for "their" spending.
Exactly. They right wingers keep trying to present off the charts biased bills, then blame the dems that it's their fault for not agreeing with it
Hell the GOP shot down their own bill with the Ryan plan.
The GOP in the house needs to get their heads out of their rears, make some cuts, and present something sane. Not just their typical slash everything except for "their" spending.
Congress can cut whatever they want and spend whatever they want as per the constitution. Then the Senate can make their own appropriation bill and it is negotiated with the house committee. OR
Harry Reid can just say "scroo you America"
Exactly. They right wingers keep trying to present off the charts biased bills, then blame the dems that it's their fault for not agreeing with it
Hell the GOP shot down their own bill with the Ryan plan.
The GOP in the house needs to get their heads out of their rears, make some cuts, and present something sane. Not just their typical slash everything except for "their" spending.
I totally disagree wityh ypour assertion, "They right wingers keep trying to present off the charts biased bills, then blame the dems that it's their fault for not agreeing with it "
The way our Constitution is SUPPOSED to work, is the House passes a bill. It goes to the senate. The Senate Majority Leader assigns the bill to the appropriate senate committees for discussion. They can pass it out of committee unchanged or they can amend it or they can dismiss it outright.
Ole Harry won't even let his fellow Senators LOOK at the bills.
Remember, they can amend them ANYWAY THEY WANT. then they go to a conference committee COMPRISED OF MEMBERS FROM BOTH HOUSES.
Harry Reid is promising that there will be no budget again this year for the third year in a row. That is against the law. The House will again produce a budget but Reid will not let it get voted on in the Senate so it will stall there like the other 28 bills to improve our economy.
Of course the democrats will not impeach him so the Republicans must take over the senate to get him out of power. That is the only way to get rid of the gut causing the gridlock in Congress.
If you think that you can get 2/3, be my guest. The question of whether what you charge is 'disorderly behavior' is questionable, however.
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Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members, and a majority of each shall constitute a quorum to do business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the attendance of absent members, in such manner, and under such penalties as each House may provide.
Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.
Exactly. They right wingers keep trying to present off the charts biased bills, then blame the dems that it's their fault for not agreeing with it
Hell the GOP shot down their own bill with the Ryan plan.
The GOP in the house needs to get their heads out of their rears, make some cuts, and present something sane. Not just their typical slash everything except for "their" spending.
Well then Tempest68, why are the Dems in the Senate just tabling the bills ?
Why not modify them and present back to the House ?
Bills seem to be going from the House to the Senate and then nothing is done in the Senate. Tabling a bill is not even attempting. Don't table a bill and then cry you can't get anything done.
Well then Tempest68, why are the Dems in the Senate just tabling the bills ?
Why not modify them and present back to the House ?
Bills seem to be going from the House to the Senate and then nothing is done in the Senate. Tabling a bill is not even attempting. Don't table a bill and then cry you can't get anything done.
The House’s play here was to try to hand their version of the continuing appropriations bill (to keep the government funded and running past the end of the fiscal year on September 30th) to the Senate and then skip town for a one week recess, leaving the Senate with the choice of either accepting their version of the bill, or amending/rejecting it without the House in town to react, which would leave us without a funding bill in place and trigger a government shutdown.
Instead, the Senate moved immediately to table (effectively, to kill) the House-passed version, meaning that the House will still be in session when the news comes back that there’s no longer a live appropriations vehicle out there to avert the shutdown. Some of the votes to table the bill came from of the usual hard right-leaning suspects, which leads me to believe they’re looking to kill two birds with one stone here: 1) to help speed the creation of a crisis, and; 2) to be able to claim they opposed the bill because it didn’t cut enough, as some hardliner Republicans in the House continued to say last night.
Well then Tempest68, why are the Dems in the Senate just tabling the bills ?
Why not modify them and present back to the House ?
The GOP has no desire to compromise or come out with a sane budget bill. It makes no sense to keep wasting tax payer funds and congress' time when the right wingers are acting like a bunch of bratty 3 year olds.
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Bills seem to be going from the House to the Senate and then nothing is done in the Senate. Tabling a bill is not even attempting. Don't table a bill and then cry you can't get anything done.
Plenty has been getting done, they just passed the tax cut for the middle class extension for the rest of the year for example. The dems are willing to bend over backwards for the right wingers, but it's been proven time and time again the right will not touch their oh-so-precious tax cuts to the rich, or handouts to their corporate cronies no matter what. If we want to get the budget back on track, one of the key provisions is to include having the rich pay their fair share. At this point it looks like we just have to wait until the teabaggers hopefully are all voted out in november so we can finally get progress going again in this country.
I find the idea of removing a Senator from offices for failing to pass a budget, preposterous. As long as there are continuing resolutions passed to fund the government, a budget is not required constitutionally. So, to remove someone from office that is not required nor an offense would be unprecedented.
Nonsense. The House continues to send budget appropriations bills to the senate where they are not acted on. CRs are supposed to be temporary extensions while differences are worked out. Harry doesn't even attempt to work anything out because he doesn't want his members to have to go on record voting against the sound proposals made by the house.
There is no excuse for this behavior. The democrats in the senate are the DO NOTHING CONGRESS that Obama keeps talking about.
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