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I think the students should play a part in rating a teacher and if they should be kept in the classroom to teach. They should give a questionaire to each student to describe the teachers ability to teach, explain, have good rapport with the students .
I know I had some great teachers, some good teachers and teachers who didn't like kids or acted like they didn't and were so strict one couldn't even approach them with a question.
So why shouldn't students have a say? I doubt any student would bad mouth a great teacher. I know if a teacher was getting the kids motivated to learn they were always well liked by all students.
Oh definitely. Have your annual assessment of your job be determined by 25 6 year olds. Great idea.
Oh definitely. Have your annual assessment of your job be determined by 25 6 year olds. Great idea.
I am talking about older students..ones that are quite capable to knowing if a teacher is getting the students motivated and are learning. I don't think many kindergarden teachers can do much to hamper the learning ability of coloring in the lines.
So the criticism of Teacher Unions continues, blaming the Unions for the sorry state of education today.
But wait - only 36% of teachers are in Unions. (according to Bureau of Labor Statistics).
So what about the other 2/3's of the teachers in the COuntry? There's no one protecting 2/3 of the nation's teachers - if a teacher is bad, it is the LOCAL control of the schools that is allowing for those bad teachers to continue teaching.
And I'd expect that the unionized teachers are primarily in the Northeast & California. So what about the rest of the country? WHy isn't edukation gud in dose places?
I am talking about older students..ones that are quite capable to knowing if a teacher is getting the students motivated and are learning. I don't think many kindergarden teachers can do much to hamper the learning ability of coloring in the lines.
There was some scandal about student evaluations of teachers at the University of Colorado. I'll try to dig it up.
The OP's remarks are not about teachers unions, the Department of Education, or anything of that ilk. It's about conservatives, like Santorum, being anti-education because supposedly the "Father of Lies" works through the "pride of smart people."
LET'S BURN SMART PEOPLE AT THE STAKE!!!!! GET YOUR PITCHFORKS, EVERYONE!!!!! THE KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY IS ECONOMY OF LUCIFER!!!!!!
In my day I ran in some seriously fundamentalist circles and I often heard language very similar to this--especially in regards to public education. Just a small snippet of things I've had said to me by the motley crew of homeschoolers, libertarians, and Culture War Christians through the years:
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"...don't you think you should do something else besides teaching? There's such an anti-God agenda in the public schools. Christians shouldn't be part of that."
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"...God can't use you as an instrument for good in public education"
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"...I just don't think you're qualified to teach sunday school or lead youth ministry because your mind has been tainted by the secular public ed system" (From a homeschool mom who objected to me helping with a youth program at a former church I went to)
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"But child labor laws ARE stupid! If poor kids are not getting a quality education, then we shouldn't bother spending money on them. They should have a part time job so they can be more productive" (a guy who stuck up for Gingrich's support of child labor.)
This is just a small snippet of the many things I've had said to me through the years. I didn't mention the snarky comments about my colleagues (lazy government employees), the kids I teach (godless little monsters) or my choice of profession. (meaningless, will have no impact) I should note that all of these people who say these things are on the right side of the political spectrum. In contrast, all of the liberals I've met have been 100% supportive of what I do.
No, not all conservatives hate public education, and plenty do have respect for individual teachers (and have told me so to my face). But just about all people who hate public education happen to be conservatives--or religious fanatics. It's happened too often for me to shrug it off as just a couple of outliers in the movement. There's a strong anti-intellectual, anti-education streak in American conservatism, and it's stunning that more intelligent conservatives don't notice it or call it out.
When I was a right wing high schooler, I always wondered why my teachers were Democrats. But after college and actually working in the profession, I finally understand why.
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Very true in PA. One of the first things our new Republican governor did was cut education. I have no respect for ANY politician that cuts education funding. I don't care what party they belong to
Very true in PA. One of the first things our new Republican governor did was cut education. I have no respect for ANY politician that cuts education funding. I don't care what party they belong to
This thread isn't about the DOD or WMDs, it's about being "anti-education" (not really, it's just another way to bash conservatives but pay no attention to the lefty idiots behind the curtain.)
It also isn't about unions, the federal government, or the department of education. Yet you continue to try to make it about that. More proof that right wingers, not conservatives, despise education. This isn't about your run of the mill Reagan Republican, this is about the far right teabagging morons.
You want to talk about unions start your own thread bashing working class America, this is about education.
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