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Old 09-27-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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19% of health care pros say Americans 'will die earlier' due to Obamacare | WashingtonExaminer.com

Of course, they've been saying that for years.

It takes no genius to know it's a disaster. Name one thing the federal government has improved by creating more bureaucracy... It doesn't exist.

Health reform's bureaucratic spawn - Gloria Park and Fred Barbash - POLITICO.com

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Don’t bother trying to count up the number of agencies, boards and commissions created under the new health care law. Estimating the number is “impossible,” a recent Congressional Research Service report says, and a true count “unknowable.”

The reasons for the uncertainty are many, according to CRS’s Curtis W. Copeland, the author of the report “New Entities Created Pursuant to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.”

The provisions of the law that create the new entities vary dramatically in specificity.

The law says a lot about some of them and a little about many, and merely mentions a few. Some have been authorized without any instructions on who is to appoint whom, when that might happen and who will pay.
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The Center for Health Transformation, founded by Newt Gingrich, recently estimated that the new law created as many as 159 new offices, agencies and programs. Republican staffers on the Joint Economic Committee determined that there were 47 bureaucratic entities.

“Although some observers have asserted that PPACA will result in a precise number of new boards and commissions,” the CRS document reads, “the exact number of new organizations and advisory bodies that will ultimately be created ... is currently unknowable.”
It is this kind of insipidly idiotic morass that spawns waste, fraud, abuse, inefficiency, and just plain old fashioned red tape.

THIS is going to improve health care?

Of course not. Nor will it decrease costs.
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Old 09-27-2013, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It is nothing but a left wing power grab to expand big government and make Americans less free.

That a lot of people will die unnecessarily early because of Obamacare is of no concern to the liberal elite, so long as they have control of money and people.

Sociopaths, they are all, and they depend on the low information rank and file Democrat to be uninformed and defend their tyrannical train wreck.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:09 PM
 
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19% of health care pros say Americans 'will die earlier' due to Obamacare | WashingtonExaminer.com

Of course, they've been saying that for years.

It takes no genius to know it's a disaster. Name one thing the federal government has improved by creating more bureaucracy... It doesn't exist.

Health reform's bureaucratic spawn - Gloria Park and Fred Barbash - POLITICO.com





It is this kind of insipidly idiotic morass that spawns waste, fraud, abuse, inefficiency, and just plain old fashioned red tape.

THIS is going to improve health care?

Of course not. Nor will it decrease costs.
Newt Gingrich???????????

If it was going to be such a disaster, the Teapublicans would be more than happy to allow it to go off the cliff or into a brick wall just to make Obama and the Democrats look bad. By the time the 2016 election arrives, the left wing would be in the crapper and it would be a shoe-in for the right wing...right?

This proves that they are spreading propaganda and freaking the ef out because they know that the opposite will be true. People will be pleased and the GOP loses the White House yet again, along with Congress and the Senate. Bye Bye obsructionists...
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:18 PM
 
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Ok what health care plan are you on Medicare, Tricare, VA or a combination of the two? Most of the people who post here are covered by one of these plans. Why not be up front and tell us which government plan you are on before posting this garbage from the Washington Examiner? Ok if you are not on a government plan then tell us how much ACA is going to cost you. I can tell you it will cost me $1500 next year but it will be better than the catastrophic plan I am on. There are flaws with the ACA but squeezing health care providers isn't one of them.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:29 PM
 
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Ok what health care plan are you on Medicare, Tricare, VA or a combination of the two? Most of the people who post here are covered by one of these plans. Why not be up front and tell us which government plan you are on before posting this garbage from the Washington Examiner? Ok if you are not on a government plan then tell us how much ACA is going to cost you. I can tell you it will cost me $1500 next year but it will be better than the catastrophic plan I am on. There are flaws with the ACA but squeezing health care providers isn't one of them.
Cannot rep you again yet.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Originally Posted by borregokid View Post
Ok what health care plan are you on Medicare, Tricare, VA or a combination of the two? Most of the people who post here are covered by one of these plans. Why not be up front and tell us which government plan you are on before posting this garbage from the Washington Examiner? Ok if you are not on a government plan then tell us how much ACA is going to cost you. I can tell you it will cost me $1500 next year but it will be better than the catastrophic plan I am on. There are flaws with the ACA but squeezing health care providers isn't one of them.
I am wondering why someone on a government subsidy is justification for another government subsidy?

And no, most people are not on one of those plans.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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19% say Americans will die earlier?

What do the other 81% say?
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:43 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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19% say Americans will die earlier?

What do the other 81% say?
Die at the same time.
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:44 PM
 
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I am wondering why someone on a government subsidy is justification for another government subsidy?

And no, most people are not on one of those plans.
No but 67 million Americans are and those are the people who put the Tea Partiers in office in 2010. Have you ever taken a look at a Tea Party rally?? Hard to find someone who doesn't have a cane, walker, wheel chair, mobility scooter or sucking on oxygen. All of this courtesy of our gubbermint. Stop complaining about the ACA while you are sucking off the government..
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Old 09-27-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Cannot rep you again yet.
Nor should you.
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