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Old 03-11-2012, 04:50 PM
 
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Excellent article, my, er, foot! Pravda as a reliable source? Great G*d!
It is to Russia/Communist lovers.....
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Old 03-11-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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So it seems that birthers are now inline with communists. I knew they were unAmerican. Thanks for proving it OP.
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Old 03-11-2012, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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Your post is not true. The evidence presented by trained lawmen and attorneys is new and factual.
please point us to just one "factual" piece of information that is new or factual???...

Strange coincidence that you are a "new poster".., with 9 posts and all of them are tied into this birther non sense.

Do you have any other screen names by any chance???
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Old 03-11-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I won't be a party to the birther issue, but I would come closer at this point to believing Pravda than I would the New York Times.
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:35 AM
 
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In a four page, detailed article, Pravda makes a case for Obama's birth certificate......
i finally got a chance to skim over the article. oof. besides being long-winded and comically biased it's basically just a rehash of things we have long since discussed ( arpaio/CCP, minor v happersett, de vattel....).

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....and Selective Service Card being forged.
the card was released directly from the selective service during the bush administration. i'm not sure how they link obama to forgery on that one.

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Plus, it says Obama Guy scrubbed Internet research law site of mentions of a case,....
"justiagate". from my understanding it was only a single link to minor v happersett from another case that was skrewed up. MvH still exists on the site...... plus multiple ( and more popular ) legal sites and the hundreds of thousands of US law books in circulation throughout the globe.

another piece of MvH is it does not give an exclusive definition of NBC as the birthers claim........ and specifically states as much:

"At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts."

- minor v happersett


this fact was confirmed recently in the decision rejecting the AZ ballot challenge.

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It also says Hawaii is the only state where this could have been pulled off.
i think it implies that this could only happen in hawaii by citing laws governing unattended births but....... it fails to mention that these laws are fundamentally identical to every other state in the US ( and in some cases stricter ).




there was one excerpt from the article i found interesting

from pravda/dianna cotter:
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The president himself created the scene; one filled laughter from an adoring press corp., a scene of unprecedented fanfare while holding a forged document which was later posted on the White House website. This was the news Sheriff Arpaio revealed on March 1, 2012 in Arizona.
the CCP never claimed the LFBC released at the press conference was a forgery nor did they even address it. their claim is that the PDF is a forgery. but the photos of the LFBC taken at the press conference by savannah guthrie show a higher resolution than the PDF. therefor we know that the PDF can not be the source for the document savannah photographed. for the CCP's theory to be correct requires that the white house had a legitimate LFBC ready to scan....... but just for sh*ts-n-giggles created a separate forgery.

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Old 03-12-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: North America
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Oh, goody, Pravda...makes the whole birfer mishigas more credible...not.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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LMAO -- Now the birthers are turning to Pravda? Somewhere, somehow, Stalin and Khruschev are laughing hysterically over a fine vodka.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Earth
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It's a sad day when citizens of the U.S. are now siding with Pravda to be against the President. Forty years ago you would have been hauled off to jail for that commie sentiment.
But isn't Obama a commie?
I'm so confused, it's hard to play bs bingo these days.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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But isn't Obama a commie?
I'm so confused, it's hard to play bs bingo these days.
Not just a commie, but a Kenyan commie.

Run that one through the logic-o-meter! LOL
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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HINT: Communism and Socialism ARE NOT the same
Excellent point! They are not!

But they sure as hell sleep together and when one get's uppity, the other one ends up burying the other.
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