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Remember this ocurred in a gated community.
So it may have been 'thug posturing'.
That said, Zimmerman did get his nose and face busted in a bit...plenty of reason to draw. Of course, you can argue that Zimmerman created the the situation by getting out of his car and knowing he was a puff-boy, would obviously resort to his gun if it turned physical.
But really- if you see a 6'3'' ripped guy with a 6-pack,Tupac do-rag on (embellishing here) smoking a foot long joint with a glass pipe behind his ear- of course you get out of your car and don't wait for the cops (who you're currently talking to- to show up).
LOL! At 6'3" and 140 pounds, he'd be ripped like a drinking straw. At that age, I was 5'4" and 127 pounds, and I had a 24" waist.
You can blme that on me, although laziness has nothing to do with it. Many news reports state that the boy was visiting the father at his home. OK the boy was visiting his father at his father's girlfriend's home. What is significant is that the boy wsa there legitimately. And even if he wasn't, shooting him was not ok.
What stopped Mr Self-Appointed Cop from rolling down his car window and saying "Excuse me young man, I don't believe I've seen you around here before. Mind if I ask where you're headed?"
Who says something similar was not said? His own mom says Treyvon is capable of mouthing off if he felt threatened. The Black community does not teach respect to their kids. I've seen Black kids talk to adults any which way. For a kid raised by Africans I was shocked when I first was exposed to this behavior in junior high.
You can blme that on me, although laziness has nothing to do with it. Many news reports state that the boy was visiting the father at his home. OK the boy was visiting his father at his father's girlfriend's home. What is significant is that the boy wsa there legitimately. And even if he wasn't, shooting him was not ok.
What stopped Mr Self-Appointed Cop from rolling down his car window and saying "Excuse me young man, I don't believe I've seen you around here before. Mind if I ask where you're headed?"
Maybe it was - only two people really know what happened, and one of them is dead. It will be up to investigators to ascertain the best they can what happened.
It's possible the kid did become combative, who knows. I'm inclined to believe that the neighborhood watch captain was really looking forward to an opportunity to use his gun, and probably is guilty of murder - but the evidence we have at this time doesn't allow for a conclusion either way.
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I even have a bet riding on that with a buddy that listens to him..We have set the day before the Mayan calender ends as the cutoff date...midnight of course.......double or nothing they find a lot of young boys tied up in Rush's basement one day as a side bet too.
Maybe it was - only two people really know what happened, and one of them is dead. It will be up to investigators to ascertain the best they can what happened.
It's possible the kid did become combative, who knows. I'm inclined to believe that the neighborhood watch captain was really looking forward to an opportunity to use his gun, and probably is guilty of murder - but the evidence we have at this time doesn't allow for a conclusion either way.
The problem with this line of thinking is Zimmerman has been previously instrumental in capturing black burglary suspects. So what did he have to prove? Presumably he's always had a gun and carried it around with him.
They'd rather yell and scream and blame everyone under the sun than fix their rotting communities. I guess fixing their communities would actually require hard work.
I'm assuming..under the best case scenario for a Zimmerman defense that he was calling for help as HE was gettin his @ss whipped by Martin, however, the scenario of Martin screaming for help while he was getting pursued by a gun is, obviously, much more probable.
Uh dullard. Zimmerman claims it was him too. He said this before the recordings came out. It's been rarely discussed or mentioned since early March.
I'm not saying that it wasn't Treyvon's--but I'm not saying that it was either. If you listen to the recording yourself, I don't know how anyone can absolutely, without a doubt say which of the two it was. I've listened to it 10 times myself, and still can't say for sure whether it's a boy's voice or a 28 year old grown man's.
Of course Treyvon's parents are going to say that it was their son's--they have a vested interest in saying that. But keep in mind that originally his father couldn't even tell. Now admist the uproar, and all the marching and media attention, they can all of a sudden identify it???
It's plausable that Tryevon was whooping him, while Zimmerman yelled for help--and then pulled it out and popped.
Again--nothing definite, but I would entertain the possibility that he either shot in "self defense" (for lack of a better term) despite putting himself in that situation OR Tryevon could have whopped him up attempted to leave, when Zimmerman pulled out and shot.
Again, we need more details, and facts to put this together. But I'm not buying the popular opinion that anything is definite at this point.
Who says something similar was not said? His own mom says Treyvon is capable of mouthing off if he felt threatened. The Black community does not teach respect to their kids. I've seen Black kids talk to adults any which way. For a kid raised by Africans I was shocked when I first was exposed to this behavior in junior high.
wait for it....yes the Superiority of Africa over good old American Blacks.
However, I'm sure any teenager of any color could come up with some choice words for a tool 2.5 in a car harassing them.
There is a report from the first day of the incident where a witness says this person yelling for help was Zimmerman. I'm inclined to side with the mother but at the same time she also has a motivation to be mistaken or even outright lie.
There needs to be independent verification of the person who is on the tape asking for help.
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.......double or nothing they find a lot of young boys tied up in Rush's basement one day as a side bet too.
