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Old 03-18-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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RIAA and ISPs to police your traffic this summer (updated)


Good to see that private companies can monitor what you are looking at without any warrants what so ever and without any oversight. Cause I'm sure they won't be tracking everything you look at, including your bank accounts, personal health care info, etc.....LOL
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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Yep, knew this was coming.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:13 PM
 
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Cause I'm sure they won't be tracking everything you look at, including your bank accounts, personal health care info, etc.....LOL
It's the RIAA doing the monitoring of torrent networks which they have been doing for years. Your ISP will be the middleman/enforcer. The types of services you have listed such as banking cannot be monitored by the RIAA since they are out of the loop. Your ISP already logs such traffic for variety of reasons and has been doing that since the inception of the internet, since those types of services are typically done over HTTPS your ISP would only be able to monitor the traffic itself, not the content.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It's the RIAA doing the monitoring of torrent networks which they have been doing for years. Your ISP will be the middleman/enforcer. The types of services you have listed such as banking cannot be monitored by the RIAA since they are out of the loop. Your ISP already logs such traffic for variety of reasons and has been doing that since the inception of the internet, since those types of services are typically done over HTTPS your ISP would only be able to monitor the traffic itself, not the content.
You just said the very reason my wife doesn't allow me to do any banking online. We want to keep our numbers to ourselves and not share them with anyone else other than the bank.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:41 PM
 
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You just said the very reason my wife doesn't allow me to do any banking online. We want to keep our numbers to ourselves and not share them with anyone else other than the bank.
When you communicate with the bank it's a secure encrypted communication between your computer and the banks server. If it's intercepted by a third party in transit it's useless unless that third party is one of the alphabet agencies and even then it's unknown factor how well they can break these type of communications.

Where the security breaks down is either on your end if for example you have keylogger and someone is able to obtain the password before it's encrypted or on the banks end if the server is compromised. It may sound strange but that data going across the networks is probably the safest and most secure place it can be.

There is lot of websites moving to HTTPS even for mundane things like the private message system of forums.


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If you really wanted to secure on your end online banking or services where privacy is a concern use something Knoppix which is Linux based OS that boots from CD. It's like clean installtion every time you boot it, from there the only place the security can break down is on the banks end.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:48 PM
 
Location: NC
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When you communicate with the bank it's a secure encrypted communication between your computer and the banks server. If it's intercepted by a third party in transit it's useless unless that third party is one of the alphabet agencies and even then it's unknown factor how well they can break these type of communications.

Where the security breaks down is either on your end if for example you have keylogger and someone is able to obtain the password before it's encrypted or on the banks end if the server is compromised. It may sound strange but that data going across the networks is probably the safest and most secure place it can be.

There is lot of websites moving to HTTPS even for mundane things like the private message system of forums.
Oh they can break the encryption if they really want too and quick too. That is why they built/are building quantum computers.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:56 PM
 
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Oh they can break the encryption if they really want too and quick too. That is why they built quantum computers.
I'm aware there is strong possibility they can break just about anything but it's how efficiently they can do it that really matters. The abilities of the NSA is pure speculation whatever they may be.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:02 PM
 
Location: NC
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I'm aware there is strong possibility they can break just about anything but it's how efficiently they can do it that really matters. The abilities of the NSA is pure speculation whatever they may be.
I think a lot of depends on how far they got/get with quantum computers. Those things are pretty much exclusively funded by the alphabet soup agencies, have massive processing power and are basically mainly for electronic decryption.
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:29 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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RIAA vs pirates.

Sometimes you wish a cluster bomb would just land between BOTH sides in some contests.
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