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Old 03-21-2012, 03:25 AM
 
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Wow this seems like it is going to be a real mess.

American ISPs to launch massive copyright spying scheme on July 12 | The Raw Story
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:14 AM
 
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This is interesting because according to this Russian site, YouHaveDownloaded RIAA and others like Sony, Universal and Fox are also downloading pirated material. Now here is the amazing part. RIAA claims it wasn't them. Someone else using those ips. (lol)

RIAA and Homeland Security Caught Downloading Torrents

From the article.

If there’s one organization known for its crusade against online piracy, it’s the RIAA. Nevertheless, even in the RIAA’s headquarters several people use BitTorrent to download pirated music, movies, TV-shows and software. And they are in good company. The Department of Homeland Security – known for seizing pirate domain names – also harbors hundreds of BitTorrent pirates.

This ISP issue is connected to this Memorandum of Understanding.

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Old 03-21-2012, 06:29 AM
 
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Why would the ISP's do this? the recording artists have no bite, no enforcement ability. Why would anyone think because the records companies want something they will get it?

I expect there will be many(most) ISP's that will take no action, those that do will simply increase the business to those that don't...problem solved.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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I expect there will be many(most) ISP's that will take no action, those that do will simply increase the business to those that don't...problem solved.
It sounds that simple but it isn't

Many people have no options...in fact most only have 2 ISP's to choose from. Regulations have made it a quasi-monopoly. So what does one do when all their options are policing?
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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From what I understand this was in concert with the Obama admin. That is why it is being enforced by a private coalition. You will have nowhere to go. Sounds similar to the foreclosure scandal that got sweeped under the rug with the fed and state AG deals.

This is SOPA via the back door. All kind of sticky issues. 'Spying' and "downloading" can be construed as viewing, because technically you download to browse. So basically you are agreeing to be spied on by signing up or keeping svc. It will leave openings for further encroachments and abuse.

It is getting bad. FBI secretly redirecting and tracking people. Now my guess is they will deny it and say it is related to the DNS trojan. That is why that odd FBI story came out before March 8th. Plausible deniability. I told people in the tech section to pay attention. Right after that alphabet agency Anonymous anounced an attack on root DNS servers on March 31st.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fbi-secr...ival-blog.html

Trojan DNS story.
http://www.cyberwarzone.com/cyberwar...ternet-march-8

http://whatshawt.com/technology/anon...edown-566.html

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Old 03-21-2012, 07:02 PM
 
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ISPs To Begin Punishing BitTorrent Pirates This Summer

From the article. This CCI was formed to administer.


The deal involves content owners, such as recording labels and movie studios, monitoring peer-to-peer networks including BitTorrent for copyright infringements and reporting instances to Internet service providers. The ISPs have agreed to take steps to “educate” allegedly infringing customers through an escalating system of notices, warnings, and other measures.
While it was big news at the time and a very hot issue, since mid-2011 very little has been reported on the progress of the deal. The initial announcement said that ISPs would start implementing the alert system by the end of last year, but this obviously didn’t happen.
However, according to the Center for Copyright Information (CCI), the organization responsible for administering the scheme, all parties are on target to initiate the programs by July 12th this year.
“The members of the coalition are making significant progress at developing a cooperative system to educate consumers and deter copyright theft,” a spokesperson told TorrentFreak.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:29 PM
 
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This is in regard to the mega upload suit. Interesting.

Google Defends Hotfile (and Megaupload) in Court

Google has filed a brief at a federal court in Florida defending the file-hosting site Hotfile in its case against the MPAA. The search giant accuses the movie companies of misleading the court and argues that Hotfile is protected under the DMCA’s safe harbor. Indirectly, Google is also refuting claims being made by the US government in the criminal case against Megaupload.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:36 PM
 
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Wonder if they will get the International Criminal Court to go after Sarkozy? LOL
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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Why would the ISP's do this? the recording artists have no bite, no enforcement ability. Why would anyone think because the records companies want something they will get it?

I expect there will be many(most) ISP's that will take no action, those that do will simply increase the business to those that don't...problem solved.
The article points out that the media industries are giving kickbacks to ISPs.

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It is because of those reasons that the content industries believe this program achieves much more than what might have been possible in the realm of public policy, and the ISPs appear to agree. The voluntary scheme will be paid for mostly by the content industries, which will share some costs with the ISPs.
How much cost is the ISP really going to undertake? Will it immunize them against frivolous lawsuits?

The private program is a workaround to otherwise protected rights to free-speech and freedom of information. I'm interested to see how well this stands up.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:54 PM
 
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Well they seem to be using the same formula to run over foreclosure victims so I feel confident plenty of damage can be done.

These companies are all Mega Corps and they make their money off the govt, Not to mention the govt's investment and control of them. They sell information at a nominal price per acct to law enforcement et al already.

When SOPA didn't pass they immediately turned around and shut down a business (MegaUpload) with no due process. Now they are going after Hotfile. The internet is a network and these kind of issues can completely ruin it.
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