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Old 04-01-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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There is proof of this?
Yes. Do you have the foggiest clue how science works? I can't tell if you're trolling.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:31 AM
 
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How do you know God didn't create evolution? I bet you are the type who is arrogant throughout your life in denouncing the possibility of a God yet repents on your deathbed!
Where did his post say anything about God? Denouncing Creationism is not denouncing God. Creationism is a ridiculous literalistic belief regarding Genesis that was created in the 19/20th Century by the Fundamentalist movement.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Which is funny when you see how many complain online every chance they get about stuff.

Where do they think computers and the internet came from? It wasn't Jesus handing down Windows/Intel to the masses.
Off topic, but it was God who gave man the intelligence to exploit science and develop the technology that has given us computers and a whole lot of other cool things.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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Why do people constantly confuse evolution with creation?

Genesis is about creation, not evolution.

Creation is hard for most ignorant people to explain.

I do not buy in to the "everything I see came from nothing." That's plain crazy.
I don't confuse the 2 at all. Genesis is not a scientifically accurate, literal historic account. It's a theological Hebrew song.

But Creationists insist on turning it into a literal historical event, and thus created the embarrassment known as Creationism.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:34 AM
 
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If there was death before the "original sin" doesn't that negate the theology that the entire bible is based on?
No, since Original Sin was created by Saint Augustine. There is no original sin in the Old Testament.
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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And the usual suspects come out of the woodwork!

What a hilarious statement. "Science has progressed ... more than religion"

Science is science. It's methods may progress, as technology provides new and better ways to explore deeper into our universe and into biological systems, etc. But science itself remains the same if it is real science.

But I'm curious about the second part of your statement. Why should "religion" progress? What should it "progress" to?

I think the answer you have in mind is that it should progress to unbelief. That seems to be what is wrong with the kind of science that you accept as being real science, as opposed to science that embraces the idea of (or at least does not ignore the possibility of) "intelligent design" (God, if you will).
"I don't want the religious person in the lab telling me that God is responsible for what it is they cannot discover, it's like saying no one else will ever discover how something works." - DeGrasse Tyson
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Wink Conservatives' Trust of Science Hits All Time Low

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Study: Conservatives' Trust of Science Hits All Time Low - chicagotribune.com

Have there been any scientific discoveries in the last 40 years that conservatives have agreed with? Or is all knowledge considered suspicious?

The GOP crawled into bed with the kooky religious right a couple of decades ago. Now, they've become the religious right. They now have to publicly declare that Adam and Eve rode to Sunday school on dinosaurs or face the wrath of the teabaggers/birthers/bubbas and dittoheads.

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The Flintstones wasn't a cartoon - it was a documentary.

"Science? We don't need no stinkin' science!"

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Old 04-01-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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When did Evolution become "scientifically testable"?



Evolution became scientifically testable the moment Darwin advanced his thesis in "Origin of the Species" and it has been thoroughly tested by scientists world wide for more than 150 years! We have hundreds of examples in the natural world of life modifying itself in response to its environment. Where do you think we get these nasty flu bugs? Flu bugs adapt or evolve to be a more effective ie better flu bugs! Evolution explains how we turned wolves into man's best friend or other mamals into cattle, hogs or sheep. Evolution also led to new sciences that probably wouldn't have come about without the change in world view that evolution represents. Would Gregor Mendel have concieved of genetics without Darwin's ideas? What possible reason would he have to use selective breeding of peas in his monastery garden to come up with his beautiful idea behind genetics? Others have built on Mendel's genetics to take it to most fundamental level of molecules and atoms. So we not only have the idea of evolution but we now know how it works at the most fundamental level.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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And the usual suspects come out of the woodwork!

What a hilarious statement. "Science has progressed ... more than religion"

Science is science. It's methods may progress, as technology provides new and better ways to explore deeper into our universe and into biological systems, etc. But science itself remains the same if it is real science.

But I'm curious about the second part of your statement. Why should "religion" progress? What should it "progress" to?

I think the answer you have in mind is that it should progress to unbelief. That seems to be what is wrong with the kind of science that you accept as being real science, as opposed to science that embraces the idea of (or at least does not ignore the possibility of) "intelligent design" (God, if you will).
Centuries ago most people believed in a variety of invisible beings: demons, devils, angels, etc. Currently, many people still believe in invisible beings: demons, devils, angels, etc. Religion cannot provide any evidence for the existence of such supernatural creatures.
Religion has been forced to progress. Like that the earth revolves around the sun. Religion reluctantly accepted this scientific discovery, but not until, at least, religion could punish those who discovered facts that contradicted religious dogma.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Off topic, but it was God who gave man the intelligence to exploit science and develop the technology that has given us computers and a whole lot of other cool things.

You don't know your Good Book very well! GOD did not give man the intelligence to exploit science or develop technology. Man's original sin was when he disobeyed GOD and partook from the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE which GOD had forbad him or her to do so. The so called "Apple" i.e knowledge was the forbidden fruit and man chose to bite into it. GOD responded to man's disobiedence by damming him for all eternity and expelling him from Eden.
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