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First of all, that's destruction of public property. Second, it symbolizes hate. Not newsworthy? The fact that it was done during Passover doesn't bother you? I'm curious. Does the section of Dallas where this happened have a lot of Jewish residents?
Sure, maybe it was "just kids" having a little fun. The same people who are saying this is no big deal are calling Trayvon Martin a thug because he got suspended from school. Think about it.
What you did not see is the amount of coverage the news gave a story that was minor. It was well over blown and murders did not get as much coverage.
there are more that you haven't heard. if you can, please read the police report. zimmerman was reported to have injuries to the head while funereal director described trayvon with no injuries. there was a struggle and scream for help. there was a witness that stated trayvon was on top and other witnesses that only heard the screams and shot saying it sounded like a young man screaming. after the shot, zimmerman was seen being on top. initial police reported that zimmerman's back was wet and had grass stains.
all the ones that support trayvon are going for gun hating prejudices (anyone carrying a gun is out to be a vigilante) therefore, they believe that trayvon was a victim of a gun toting vigilante. they use past complaints against zimmerman but ignore that trayvon could have been a hot head and actually did violently attacked zimmerman. again, there is evidence that zimmerman suffered injuries and trayvon didn't. this is an important fact that connects the dot to what may have actually happened.
Ok. So Trayvon actually having NO injuries makes things look worse for Zimmerman. It implies that either Trayvon was so superior physically or skilled in the martial arts that Zimmerman was not able to fight back in any way shape or form- no parrying blows, no counterpunches- he was just able to pull his gun.
Guess what? Even if a hotheaded teen is walking down the street- I'd never know, because I have no business confronting him. He has the right to not be questioned by the self-proclaimed captain of the block watch.
I live in a nice area in Texas, I might have choice words if some guy was following me in a car and then got out and asked me what I was doing- unless it was a cop. If it's a cop- it's 'hello officer- I live in the big spanish style villa right there'. Any other questions? I really don't want to be talking about this over beers at the White House in a few weeks.
Correct. No murder 1 without a grand jury. The most people were thinking here was manslaughter, the legal analysts are thinking manslaughter, based on several reasons, but we'll see.
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Yup, media gets an F- on this one.
I have heard (anyone confirm?) that murder 1 is out of the question without grand jury in Florida. So maybe she's angling for a manslaughter charge.
From what we have seen though, I seriously doubt charges are filed. I think she realizes they have no case and is hoping that by stalling the mobs will quiet.
I have heard (anyone confirm?) that murder 1 is out of the question without grand jury in Florida. So maybe she's angling for a manslaughter charge.
From what we have seen though, I seriously doubt charges are filed. I think she realizes they have no case and is hoping that by stalling the mobs will quiet.
If charges aren't filed I'll be seriously surprised. In GZ's shoes, I'd have already left the country.
I live in a nice area in Texas, I might have choice words if some guy was following me in a car and then got out and asked me what I was doing- unless it was a cop. If it's a cop- it's 'hello officer- I live in the big spanish style villa right there'. Any other questions? I really don't want to be talking about this over beers at the White House in a few weeks.
And that's the difference, you would have choice words and maybe told the guy to get lost. You would not have physically assaulted the guy. If you did then you've escalated the problem.
So, you are saying that if you are walking along minding your own business or chatting to a friend on your cell phone, it's okay for someone to trail you in his SUV and then get out of his car and follow you in the dark? You won't mind if that person then starts to question you? If you have children, I certainly hope you tell them to run if a stranger tries to approach them and to fight and cry for help if they are confronted.
In any case Trayvon Martin was innocent. He wasn't doing a damn thing but walking home. Even if the defense can prove he was trying to fight off Zimmerman, who was following him behind the townhouses on a dark path, does this justify the shooting?
If the feds cannot find a reason to arrest Zimmerman, based on Florida law, then it does not mean he was right. It only means there isn't enough evidence and that the laws protect him. It says nothing about Martin's innocence or guilt.
how did zimmerman suffer injuries and martin with only a fatal shot? let me guess, zimmerman was on his knees beating himself while trayvon was screaming for help then zimmerman jumps on top of martin and shoots him.
or does this sound more logical: zimmerman was screaming for help while martin was beating on him, then zimmerman shoots martin.
people who are facing a gun do not scream, they get shot. therefore, i don't see zimmerman chasing martin with his gun while martin screams for help.
the facts follows zimmerman's story, that's why evidence to the contrary doesn't exist.
I seriously doubt charges are filed. I think she realizes they have no case and is hoping that by stalling the mobs will quiet.
Duval County State Attorney Angela Corey told The Miami Herald in an interview last month that she did not expect to need a grand jury, and would likely make the decision on whether or not to charge Zimmerman herself.
“I always lean towards moving forward without needing the grand jury in a case like this,” Corey said last month. “I foresee us being able to make a decision, and move on it on our own.”
Read more here: Prosecutor: No grand jury for Trayvon case - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/09/2739151/trayvon-martin-case.html#storylink=cpy - broken link)
A murder in the first degree is either a felony murder--murder committed during the course of a felony--or premeditated. If she is unable to charge him at all? You will see many--not all, but many--here saying they told us so, laughing at those who did not support their belief that Zimmerman was justified to kill Trayvon, stating that it showed Trayvon was in fact a thug wannabe--general low class stuff.
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So, we know according to Florida law becuse the State Attorney is not giving it to the Grand Jury, he WILL NOTa be charged with first-degree murder.
If she is unable to charge him at all...what then?....
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