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No oath of allegiance was administer at Ellis Island, Steve. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. We thought you would spend some time brushing upon your facts while you were away. But you return as completely oblivious as you were before you got banned again.
I never said they took it there specifically. I stated if the Russian grandparents arrived at Ellis that they most likely took the Oath of Allegiance like most law abiding immigrants which meant they could have taken it somewhere else 'after arriving'. You seem to read to much into things as I have noticed my short time here since I am new to the forum. When you do that it exposes how wrong you are on the issues. It proves you absolutely do not know what the hell you are talking about. I have also noticed twice you explicitly go out of your way to try to oust posters by their stating their real names in your posts when they prove you wrong which is most often 95% as I have noticed.
Then your comment goes from being merely wrong to completely inexplicable.
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I stated if the Russian grandparents arrived at Ellis that they most likely took the Oath of Allegiance like most law abiding immigrants which meant they could have taken it somewhere else.
What does Ellis island have to do with it? During much of Ellis Island's history, there was no such thing as "illegal immigration" meaning that entering through it had nothing to do with whether or not you were "law abiding."
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You seem to read to much into things as I have noticed my short time here since I am new to the forum.
You are "new to the forum" only in the same sense that Metta World Peace is new to the game of Basketball.
BS nonsense. If you were born here, you are an American citizen... and for you to "question their allegiance" simply for having foreign-born parents is so un-American, it seriously makes me want to puke. How many great Americans were born to immigrant parents? I'd have to do the research on that, but I imagine a good number were.
FYI - my grandfather served in the US Army during WWII, and was born to Russian parents. Did he not have any allegiance to this country?
If they have allegiance to this country, they will make the effort to become citizens. If your parents are citizens, and you are born on U.S. soil, you are eligible to run for President. If you are an anchor baby, you can run for any other office in the land, but not President. Do you really think that is depriving you of some right? It is protecting the soveregnty of this nation. The only ones that want to change that are the globalists that want to eliminate soverignty and borders. Obama called himself a global citizen.
If your parents are citizens, and you are born on U.S. soil, you are eligible to run for President.
yep. any US citizen at birth is eligible for POTUS.
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If you are an anchor baby, you can run for any other office in the land,....
yep. naturalized citizens are also eligible for any office in the land, minus one.
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......but not President.
wrong.
"Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are "natural born Citizens" for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents."
-ankeny v daniels
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Do you really think that is depriving you of some right?
yep. the right of a natural born citizen to run for POTUS.
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The only ones that want to change that are the globalists...
william rawle was a globalist?
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privilege"
.... that want to eliminate soverignty and borders.
you're the one that wants to put our choice for POTUS at the mercy of foreign countries citizenship laws.
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Obama called himself a global citizen.
on this point you're going to accept his word on citizenship?
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