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Old 04-14-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Tyrone
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Zimmerman pursued Martin, therefore, Zimmerman was the aggressor and any force Martin used was Martin's need for self defense. Remember, Martin had no weapon and was committing no crime.
that has not been fully determined. we know zimmerman lost contact with trayvon, therefore the pursuit ended. what we don't know is how the next confrontation started. all we know is that a witness saw trayvon beating on zimmerman and that a funereal director did not see any injuries on trayvon, other than being shot.

martin had no weapons, yet, zimmerman suffered injuries. place yourself as an impartial juror that can only go on facts. emotions cannot be used.

 
Old 04-14-2012, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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One last time for those with thought processing issues:

You don't call the cops, identify yourself, describe your "victim", then proceed to murder him for no reason knowing the cops are just around the corner.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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One last time for those with thought processing issues:

You don't call the cops, identify yourself, describe your "victim", then proceed to murder him for no reason knowing the cops are just around the corner.
Very true. You call the cops, tell them your location, and wait in your vehicle for them to arrive.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Very true. You call the cops, tell them your location, and wait in your vehicle for them to arrive.
Yes. You don't say (paraphrasing), "I can't give you my location. Call me when you get here."
 
Old 04-14-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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One last time for those with thought processing issues:

You don't call the cops, identify yourself, describe your "victim", then proceed to murder him for no reason knowing the cops are just around the corner.
The reason is what needs to be determined as that is what is in question.

After you do your civic duty and make the call and give the description, a balanced and logical person would back off, not make it personal.
 
Old 04-14-2012, 11:37 AM
 
Location: California
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Actually, I used to work in a minimum security prison, and assuming that the rules are similar at the Sanford jail, Zimmerman won't be allowed to accept cookies.

She can, however, send a money order to be put on his account - that way he can buy more Jolly Rancher candy.

I'm sure he will appreciate her support. Oh, and lots of married inmates carry on with different women, which can prove to be a bit of a problem on visiting day.

Maybe we could clone him for our NW program?
 
Old 04-14-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Why do they say Zimmerman was standing his ground when he was not even standing, plus he was on the ground with Trayvon on top of him?
 
Old 04-14-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Maybe we could clone him for our NW program?
Yeah, if you want your neighbors and their friends blown away!
 
Old 04-14-2012, 12:11 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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You know, until this point, in all five threads which I have thoroughly read, I never saw Bush's name. Are you trying to politicize this further?
Actually, I think one person wrote something about the Dems blaming Bush, but I ignored it. I think Bush, like Obama, would have expressed his sympathy and given his condolences to the Martin family.
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You're right, maybe he IS smoking dope up in heaven. But just as we don't know if Zimmerman quit following Trayvon when the dispatcher told him to (which numerous people on here allege), we don't know if Trayvon smoked the weed.
Yes, we don't know, but it's so wrong when people bring up a school suspension. He was the victim. If Trayvon was caught with drugs, especially on suspicion of dealing, the principal would have called the police! Gosh, it's a good thing nobody is looking into my high school records! "She skipped school and the truant officer called her parents! She liked to makeout with her boyfriend in the back of a Pontiac LeMans while listening to Light My Fire by the Doors. She went on a class trip and got caught with a beer!"
Lock her up, throw away the key!
 
Old 04-14-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Keystone State
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