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"In huge parts of America, being intelligent is something that is looked down upon."
Really?
Name two and prove proof.
"Believing religion to be illogical superstition is looked down upon."
Which religion(s) do you find illogical and why?
"Being logical, isn't it ignorant to hate Americans who excel in science and math because they don't believe a weird invisible man from 200 years ago is their savior?"
Shouldn't we first ask what these people wish to be saved from before we conclude their salvation is bogus?
"Do you think America is anti-intellectual?"
For the most-part, yes. This is because most Americans, like you, fail to ask worthwhile questions.
Why does this always devolve into religious argument? Any time a debate about intellectual attributes comes up, that is what gets jumped on. There are plenty of extremely intelligent people that are religious. That faith, or whatever you want to call it, derives from not knowing where we are from, or what happens after death. It has nothing to do with intelligence. For the record, I am not personally religious at all, but certainly understand how people can arrive at a god concept.
The reason anti-intellectualism is occurring is simple. Statistically, half of the population is below average. Check the math. Another contributing factor is the entertainment industry and what they spoon feed the masses on a daily basis. Yet another is public schools watering down the time spent on fundamentals, math, science, etc and replacing that classtime with electives holding little bearing on real life. This is not a conservative or liberal issue as both sides have plenty of morons. This is also not a religious issue. Without getting to the heart of the matter, we will simpy argue ad infinitum and never broach the truth.
In huge parts of America, being intelligent is something that is looked down upon. Believing religion to be illogical superstition is looked down upon. Being logical, isn't it ignorant to hate Americans who excel in science and math because they don't believe a weird invisible man from 200 years ago is their savior? Do you think America is anti-intellectual?
And yet america whines and asks why job are going overseas? they whine how the government dumbs its population down, its constant whining and play sports and watch realty tv, ohh and playstation.
Intelligent people should never make statements about religion unless they can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that no God exists. One can acknowledge one's belief, or lack thereof, without belittling others of faith.
When you can prove conclusively that there is no God, then I'll pay attention to your posts.
An example of anti-intellectualism. It seems awful difficult for the religious people to grasp logic.
Religion has the reputation for cultivating an atmosphere of anti-intellectualism.
I still doubt Allah's existence.
The religious make claims (that god exists), but can't prove it. Instead of admitting to this they want skeptics to prove that god doesn't exist. That's just a cover for their inability to prove.
Anyone can claim whatever they want to claim, that's easy. Proving a claim to be true is the tough part. Therefore, all mythical creatures exist until it can be proven that they don't exist.
Religion is also social conditioning. To doubt is a sin and will ostracize the skeptics. Many fear this and will conform to a popular belief.
America's anti-intellectualism can be measured by listening to trivial conversations and surfing American TV channels.
Americans apply their intellect on their jobs. Otherwise, it's mostly entertainment.
Last edited by Visvaldis; 04-12-2012 at 07:55 PM..
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