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Old 05-08-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Anyone today who presents with any chance of cancer in the UK, will be fast tracked and tests and treatment are a priority.
The B/S about the NHS on here os siply that B/S.... The NHS works and works well and is superior in every aspect to the expensive and inefficient American Health Shambles!
If one has resources there is no better medical system than the USA. That doesn't mean it works for everyone. The average American would be served as well or better by a NHS-style system.
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Old 06-20-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Sick of my Countries Health Service being dragged through the mud by Americans who don't know what there talking about. There are numerous excellent state hospitals inthe UK such as the Royal Marsden, we even invented CT Scans and MRI.

Now watch the recent episode of BBC Horizon above about London's Royal Marsden NHS Cancer Hospital before you start commenting on a system you have no idea about.









NHS kills off 130,000 elderly patients every year
NHS doctors are prematurely ending the lives of thousands of elderly hospital patients because they are difficult to manage or to free up beds, a senior consultant claimed yesterday.
Professor Patrick Pullicino said doctors had turned the use of a controversial ‘death pathway’ into the equivalent of euthanasia of the elderly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1yK7gbr7D

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Old 06-20-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Fiancee had to schedule a doctor's appointment for being sick for the past 2 weeks, told her that he's going to have to wait a week to see the doctor because all the appointments have been booked today, then she yelled at the receptionist that there's no way all of the day's and week's appointments could have been booked 5 minutes after opening time. After calling the receptionist out on their BS, she got slotted in on one of the "emergency, emergency" appointments. We waited 2 hours to be called on, and there were only about 8 other people waiting in the waiting room. One of her relatives has a heart condition and the NHS couldn't treat him properly, and wanted to go private, the NHS denied it. They can't afford private healthcare, so they are stuck with the NHS. Sure, they NHS is great if you have a cold, flu, or a stomach bug (that took yelling on the phone and 2 hours waiting to discover it), but God forbid you want to go private because the NHS leaves something to be desired when it comes to treating a chronic, life threatening condition and you only have your NI card. Most people that sing praises of the NHS never really had to use it beyond simple a simple surgery visit, it seems.

Oh, why do young Britons live longer (outside of Glasgow, Birmingham, Manchester, Tower Hamlets, Tottenham, etc. anyway) than young Americans? Because most young kids that die in the US are black kids that get shot up by gangsters because they joined the wrong gang. It has nothing to do with the NHS or lack thereof.
Poor souls. Let me spell it out for you. My wife and I paid health insurance for 30+ years. When my wife became ill, the system found a way to dump her from the rolls. Another words she ended up with no coverage at all and because of her pre-condition, no insurance company would cover her. She was extremely ill and it became a life or death situation. I paid out of pocket for over 2+ years where we almost, extremely close in losing everything including the roof over our heads. She was able to receive the benefit she paid for for decades-SSDI and medicare, took 3 long and miserable years to acquire. Although we survived, we are still close to going broke if anything else crops up. This is the reason we are selling our home. Lessoned learned? If we lived in the UK, France, Norway, Denmark, Italy, Spain, Germany, etc., this would never have happened. Oh, by the way, my wife's medicines where easily $2000 a month out of pocket, not to mention doctor visits, procedures............................
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:57 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The Royal Marsden Hospital an NHS Cancer Hospital in London. The Royal Marsden and its academic partner, The Institute of Cancer Research, have discovered or developed more new anti-cancer drugs than the National Cancer Institute in the USA.

Specialist cancer doctors, surgeons and clinical staff





Some Facts about Britain's NHS

http://www.unison.org.uk/file/US_factsheet.pdf
Mulhall, you're pretty much preaching to the choir, here. Did you think you had something to prove? In the US, Pharma only spends money developing medicines if there's a good likelihood of huge profit. That's why no one is working on developing new antibiotics here, even though the old antibiotics are losing their effectiveness, due to overuse.

I could go into a whole rant about the health care system here, the quality of medical school education (again, Pharma-dominated), etc., but I won't.

Carry on, if you feel you must. But we know our system sucks. So what else is new?

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