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Old 05-07-2012, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Fortunately, we won't have to worry about a mittens' WH.

I am still trying to figure out how anyone can believe a FOR PROFIT company, with the executive pay and bonus packages, can do anything cheaper then a non profit, a government.
Why did not the Soviet Union work out? I find it hard to believe there are people who actually believe government is more efficient than private enterprise. The use of hallucinogenic drugs is the only thing I can think of that could cause someone to support such a position.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic won't prevent the inevitable.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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OK, here is your probelm. Millions of jobs disappeared and this will be the first President to leave with fewer jobs than when he came in. How does the NY Times who is a virtual arm of the Democrat Party come up with that BS which totally flys in the face of actual facts?
Blame the employers. Private sector GDP goes up yet hiring doesn't.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why did not the Soviet Union work out? I find it hard to believe there are people who actually believe government is more efficient than private enterprise. The use of hallucinogenic drugs is the only thing I can think of that could cause someone to support such a position.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would think a for profit corporation will serve the interests of The People rather than its stockholders.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:24 PM
 
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I think we'd be more than happy to talk real dollars, but would severely undermine your case.

Nobody has responded to what I said (except for Fiddlehead, who contributed something very good to the discussion though I disagree with some of it), but there were numerous posts following mine complaining that no one wants to talk about it. I'm trying here guys! Let's put aside the partisanship and talk about what this actually means. We ought to give some credit to the president for cutting the rate of growth in an unprecedented manner (though he definitely had lots of help from the GOP the past year), but even more credit to leaders in state and local government who really slashed budgets to live within their means. We also must realize there are a lot of things I pointed out that are important qualifiers that we must accept if we accept this data.

See, to me that's actually a good thing. Perhaps that many employees simply aren't needed, in which case I hope we take the extra step and reduce the office to its necessary size. But I bet you those new private contractors are much more accountable and economically efficient. I live just outside of Washington and know many very intelligent, highly competent government employees (many of whom are even Republicans for all the party likes to rag on them) but the simple concept of incentives and private sector vs public sector compensation makes it very unlikely that the federal workforce as a whole is more economical and efficient than the private labor force. Just my thoughts
Contractors work harder and are usually more reliable because every day is a job interview. Nothing is guaranteed. It makes sense to have then in your job force for scalability and cost reasons.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:29 PM
 
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Blame the employers. Private sector GDP goes up yet hiring doesn't.
I think it is Obama:

Hostess Brands Inc. on Friday sent out letters notifying its more-than 18,000 workers that they could be laid off in the next two months.
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Old 05-07-2012, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Why did not the Soviet Union work out? I find it hard to believe there are people who actually believe government is more efficient than private enterprise. The use of hallucinogenic drugs is the only thing I can think of that could cause someone to support such a position.
Any idea what the difference in cost of package delivery between the post office and UPS???? HINT, big brown uses the post office for much of its final delivery. Why? Because the private sector cannot compete on cost.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I find it hard to believe that anyone would think a for profit corporation will serve the interests of The People rather than its stockholders.
The butcher does not care for us either. We still get meat.
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Any idea what the difference in cost of package delivery between the post office and UPS???? HINT, big brown uses the post office for much of its final delivery. Why? Because the private sector cannot compete on cost.
See anyone in a Yugo lately?
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic won't prevent the inevitable.
Re-arranging the route would have (without having to throw people off the ship, preferably).
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