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Old 05-08-2012, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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This won't happen because there has never been a time when a heterosexual couple has not been available to adopt a child. On the contrary - homosexual adoption is being forced upon unwilling children when heterosexuals are available to adopt them. The homosexual "rights" movement will stop at nothing to force their agenda on the rest of us - they truly are the ones shoving their view down others throats - and they are intolerant of anyone whith an actual moral bone in their body.

Mother's anger over gay couple's adoption of her children - Telegraph
LOL, tell that to all of the children who age out of the system without having ever found a loving home (I'll could foward you the number of the ones I personally know), to the children horribly abused and murdered by heterosexual adopted parents, to the countless of children who found loving homes w/ gay and single parents. You are quite clueless in this matter and linking to a UK rag isn't helping your case.

Gay Dads Steve and Roger Ham Raise 12 Adopted Kids - ABC News

 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Im gay and according to you i chose this life ? Do you think that if being gay was a choice i would choose a life where people would bully me and make fun of me ?
By the way, when do you chose to become straight ?
I could choose to be gay but do not - so I have chosen to be straight. You have chosen to be gay - there is no "gay" gene. Sexual orientation is a choice and therefore homosexuals cannot equate themselves with people who have bene historically persecuted because of natural characteristics such as gender or skin color.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: NC
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This amendment did not say one word about gays. It just states the natural function of a man and woman in marriage. I for one do not want my grandchildren being taught that being a normal human being is wrong. You can call that anything you want to but at the end of the day we are right. I thought being green and natural was a good thing.
How is teaching children not to hate people who are different from you the same as teaching them that being "normal" (one man, one woman) is wrong? How does allowing people who are different from you to have the same civil liberties diminish your "normality" in any way? If I accept that somebody who's different from me has the right to the same civil liberties that I do, that doesn't then mean that who I am is somehow wrong. I just don't follow that logic.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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There's nothing in the article you referenced that said the children didn't want homosexual adoptive parents. It only talks about the preferences of the mother.
I quote from the article:
She said her son replied: "But Mummy, I want to come and stay with you and Granny and Granddad."
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:31 PM
 
Location: 602/520
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I said from the word go that I was playing devil's advocate. Do I need to define what that is for you? I'm sorry that you can't enjoy a simple debate like an adult and too stubborn to even try to understand the point I was making. I won't confuse you anymore and disengage from this sub-topic you yourself brought up.
You're not making a point. You're attempting to use my words against me to try to give reason to why the gays should be allowed to marry one another. That is not playing Devil's Advocate, that is playing mind games. I have no time for that.

You are incapable of being straightforward in addressing my points. Instead you would rather beat around the bush for pages on end. Now you want to claim you're having a simple debate about same sex marriage when all you've done is rant about my hesitations with sibling marriage. How about you talk about why you support gay marriage rather than asking me what hesitations I have about sibling marriage? I have clearly stated why I am against both. This topic is about gay marriage. If you need to express your support for brother and brother to marry, please create your own thread and we can go from there. Until then, stay on topic and stop trying to play games.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: In bed with Madonna
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Sexual orientation is a choice and therefore homosexuals cannot equate themselves with people who have bene historically persecuted because of natural characteristics such as gender or skin color.
So you think we dont deserve the same rights you do because we arent equal ?
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
I quote from the article:
She said her son replied: "But Mummy, I want to come and stay with you and Granny and Granddad."
Yes, I read that. The child did not say, "I don't want homosexual parents" or "I only want heterosexual parents".
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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linking to a UK rag isn't helping your case.

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Attacking the messenger isn't helping your case
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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I had plans and tickets to the visit relatives in NC in October...I cancelled those plans tonight.

I refuse to set foot in the state of North Carolina.
 
Old 05-08-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So you think we dont deserve the same rights you do because we arent equal ?
Marriage is not a right.
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