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Old 05-31-2012, 12:30 AM
 
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Who says they are deadbeats I know at least a few people who are fathers, but act more like uncles to their kids, but again I digress the real problem is that we are discussing this at all.

It is a crisis in America that so many men treat fatherhood as though they are horses at stud. It is a burden on the state and the mother and it harms children.
That I will agree with. It does take two to tango though and when you see these mothers who have kids with a guy who already has three or four what the hell are they thinking too? I'm not defending these fools who run around like you say and play Seattle Slew at all.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:36 AM
 
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So........you are progeny of pumpkin?
if only
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:39 AM
 
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I am personally offended as a man that this whole idea to celebrate single mothers on Father's Day is being widely accepted. It seems as though we are seeing an increasing degradation of men in this country and across the world. We are now seeing websites like this...Happy Father's Day Mom - Home, that in my opinion continue to put emphasis on mothers being celebrated on Father's Day. I think the fact that this is becoming commercialized is a big problem. Why is it okay to celebrate this? What is there really to celebrate? Should we celebrate the single parents? Sure, but to make this seem as though being single mothers is becoming 'normal' and a mother can somehow be a father is ridiculous.

No matter how much those mothers do for their children, it will never replace what a father can do. By continuing perpetuating this idea that mothers can be a mother and a father, it completely closes the door on fathers being deemed necessary. Not only that, but what if the father actually turns their life around and tries to become a part of that child's life. You just spent years basically teaching that child that his father is not important or necessary, now how will that child view their father?
NO.

That's what Mother's Day is for.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:12 AM
 
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No.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:23 AM
 
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I am personally offended as a man that this whole idea to celebrate single mothers on Father's Day is being widely accepted. It seems as though we are seeing an increasing degradation of men in this country and across the world. We are now seeing websites like this...Happy Father's Day Mom - Home, that in my opinion continue to put emphasis on mothers being celebrated on Father's Day. I think the fact that this is becoming commercialized is a big problem. Why is it okay to celebrate this? What is there really to celebrate? Should we celebrate the single parents? Sure, but to make this seem as though being single mothers is becoming 'normal' and a mother can somehow be a father is ridiculous.

No matter how much those mothers do for their children, it will never replace what a father can do. By continuing perpetuating this idea that mothers can be a mother and a father, it completely closes the door on fathers being deemed necessary. Not only that, but what if the father actually turns their life around and tries to become a part of that child's life. You just spent years basically teaching that child that his father is not important or necessary, now how will that child view their father?
Ooh, you're offended. What's it to you how people celebrate ? Have you ever thought about this...maybe there wouldn't be a need to celebrate mom on fathers day if only the fathers would stop running out on their kids. Yes, a mom can be the role of a father, I've done it...no big deal. The last sentence makes me do this.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:29 AM
 
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No. But maybe there should be a Single Parent's Day.

[their hard work should be celebrated]
When are people going to figure out that these faux celebratory days were invented by Joyce Hall (a.k.a. Hallmark Cards) in order to sell greeting cards?

The rewards of good parenting is raising an adult who can make his/her own way in the world. Substance, not symbolism, is what should be celebrated, IMO. YMMV.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:33 AM
 
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You would also be surprised how many fathers decide to stop paying child support because the mothers won't let them see their children too. It goes both ways. Folks should put the kids above everything else but sadly many don't.
You can't decide to stop paying child support...that goes against a court order...that means you may go to jail. Besides, any decent dad who cares wouldn't do such a thing.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:43 AM
 
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Father's day is for children to express gratitude to fathers. Nothing else is implied or needed.
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:45 AM
 
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Besides, any decent dad who cares wouldn't do such a thing.
Decency has become a somewhat archaic concept for many today unfortunately.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:25 AM
 
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I've never heard of it. But I don't think the idea is to replace the role of a father but to recognize that [/b]the mother IS doing both roles as a SINGLE parent[b]. It's obviously giving recognition for a mom or dad that plays both roles 365 24/7.
No she's not. She may be doing double duty as a parent but she's no dad and never will be.
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