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Old 06-03-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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Are you surprised that even voters can die?
Where does one even start, with response like that...
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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No, but when they show up to vote ... that's a problem.
Exactly. How people can be oblivious to that is absolutely beyond me.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Where does one even start, with response like that...
You seem surprised that some voters have dead. Yes, some voters are dead, even Republican ones, and there is no conspiracy involved in it, because people do die. Get it ? One day you and I will be one of those dead voters.

I'd be surprised if none were dead.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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You seem surprised that some voters have dead. Yes, some voters are dead, and there is no conspiracy involved in it, because people do die. Get it ?
Does it bother you that other people are showing up and voting as the dead people?

Rule of Law » 53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Does it bother you that other people are showing up and voting as the dead people?

Rule of Law » 53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida
Just because a voter dies, does not mean his/her vote will be used again.

From your link: "Florida is leading the way in detecting and removing them (dead voters)" LOL
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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Have you ever heard of the VOTING RIGHTS ACT OF 1965? If so, have you ever read it, or Section V?

Civil Rights Division Section 5 Resource Guide

Section V "freezes election practices or procedures in certain states until the new procedures have been subjected to review, either after an administrative review by the United States Attorney General, or after a lawsuit before the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. This means that voting changes in covered jurisdictions may not be used until that review has been obtained."

Florida has FIVE counties subject to Section V. That's why DOJ sent warning letter to Florida. Changes in voting laws in those areas must obtain preclearance PRIOR to new laws going into effect. YES, this is still applicable TODAY, 2012.
Dang; you keep harping on that act while ignoring it's completely predicated on whether a change is or could be deemed discriminatroy in practice to an identifiable minority or race.

You're defending the DOJ's action with the rather futile logic that Fla's requiring ALL citizens to prove their identity and citizenship to vote is ONLY negatively affecting a certain segmant of population; why the hell is that?

Is there only one segmant of population or identifiable minority or race that doesn't respect and cherish the right to vote enough to avail themselves of at least one means of identification in 2012 for god's sake?

If so why the dickens would you defend them based on the flawed logic they should be allowed to march in without any identification and leave a "dangling chad" behind?

It seems moronic in the extreme defending those who would not fulfill any REASONABLE requirement in order to practice that most cherished of institutions in a democratic society; VOTING!
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Old 06-03-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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Dang; you keep harping on that act while ignoring it's completely predicated on whether a change is or could be deemed discriminatroy in practice to an identifiable minority or race.

You're defending the DOJ's action with the rather futile logic that Fla's requiring ALL citizens to prove their identity and citizenship to vote is ONLY negatively affecting a certain segmant of population; why the hell is that?

Is there only one segmant of population or identifiable minority or race that doesn't respect and cherish the right to vote enough to avail themselves of at least one means of identification in 2012 for god's sake?

If so why the dickens would you defend them based on the flawed logic they should be allowed to march in without any identification and leave a "dangling chad" behind?

It seems moronic in the extreme defending those who would not fulfill any REASONABLE requirement in order to practice that most cherished of institutions in a democratic society; VOTING!
I didn't write the Voting Rights Act. Certainly you are bright enough to read it and understand why the Florida state law is a problem in five counties of the state. How can a state law apply to all counties but five of them? If you read the federal law, it's really simple to understand the problem. There can be no changes to state laws regarding voting WITHOUT the required preclearance in Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. No such preclearance has been given. Laws don't just fade away because you forget them.

However, understanding how the Voting Rights Act applies to Florida takes away the fun in bashing Obama, doesn't it? 1965 was a LONG time ago but that federal law is still in effect. Let's see Governor Scott defy that law. Should be an interesting fight in federal court.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Something is very wrong when our federal government turns a blind eye to voter fraud and harasses the only entity that is trying to clean it up.


Also: Democrats Question Purge of Local Voters
You are so right about trying to clean up illegal voters voting, but most of them seem to be voters that the Dems want to vote, illegally or not.

We are too close to the 90 limit the Voting Rights Law calls for for the Florida primaries now but I see nothing wrong with them throwing illegal voters off the rolls for November. We are still 150 days from that election.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Exactly. How people can be oblivious to that is absolutely beyond me.
It is allowing early voting and motor registering that is allowing many of those dead people to vote. I would think that a dishonest person could vote for at least 10 dead people if he had their names and knew where to have the votes sent. I think we just have to have people vote at the polls only or have election judges come to their houses to hand out ballots.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:42 PM
 
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I guess disenfranchisement only matters when those who are likely to be disenfranchised have voting interests that coincide with yours.
What does it say about a party that wants illegals and prisoners to have the right to vote??
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