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Just because a voter dies, does not mean his/her vote will be used again.
From your link: "Florida is leading the way in detecting and removing them (dead voters)" LOL
But the DOI has told Florida to back off, at least for the primary because we are closer than 90 days to the primary.
Do you fail to see that people who don't go to the polls and vote early can vote many more than one vote by using dead peoples' names and addresses? Sure you see that.
I didn't write the Voting Rights Act. Certainly you are bright enough to read it and understand why the Florida state law is a problem in five counties of the state. How can a state law apply to all counties but five of them? If you read the federal law, it's really simple to understand the problem. There can be no changes to state laws regarding voting WITHOUT the required preclearance in Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. No such preclearance has been given. Laws don't just fade away because you forget them.
However, understanding how the Voting Rights Act applies to Florida takes away the fun in bashing Obama, doesn't it? 1965 was a LONG time ago but that federal law is still in effect. Let's see Governor Scott defy that law. Should be an interesting fight in federal court.
Will that fight in federal court be over before November? Of course, an appeal would take more time so the Supremes would have to take some time and they will be out of session most to the time till October. It could get real interesting especially since Florida found 53,000 dead names still on the books. That should be enough to swing a close election for the Dems.
You are so right about trying to clean up illegal voters voting, but most of them seem to be voters that the Dems want to vote, illegally or not.
We are too close to the 90 limit the Voting Rights Law calls for for the Florida primaries now but I see nothing wrong with them throwing illegal voters off the rolls for November. We are still 150 days from that election.
How do you feel about ELIGIBLE VOTERS being thrown off the voting rolls because of flaws and errors in the state's database??
A bunch of articles in Florida papers, here is one of them.
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Bill Internicola was born in Brooklyn 91 years ago and received a Bronze Star for fighting in the Battle of the Bulge in World War II, but, according to the state of Florida, he may not be a U.S. citizen.
Internicola received a letter in May from the Broward Supervisor of Elections stating that it received "information from the State of Florida that you are not a United States citizen; however you are registered to vote." The letter was part of a controversial state-led effort to rid the voter rolls of noncitizens. Similar letters were sent to 259 Broward voters.
In 2004 and especially in 2000, Florida did the same thing with those who were felons. However, many of those who were removed from the rolls were eligible and not felons. Some had similar names to those who were the actual felon, but were removed anyway, some were removed even though no actual conviction was listed, some were removed with blank and even future conviction dates. you also had those removed for segregation era related 'crimes' such as a black man falling asleep on a whites only bus stop bench.
Same thing this time around. Instead of only non-citizens being removed from the rolls, the system is flawed (people can make arguments on whether the flaws are on purpose or not, but its flawed nonetheless) and actual citizens are being removed as well. Several Florida papers had stores on eligible voters that were removed from the rolls as "non-citizens" when in fact they were citizens and eligible to vote.
Some people have short and selective memories.
Here's a website that they can peruse to stoke the fires of memory: Clearing up Florida's Electoral Swamp
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Originally Posted by Greg_IA
Every voter list across the country could be purged and it would be fine with me. It would be a very slight inconvenience to re-register, but worth it.
Not if you're registering from overseas, it's not a slight inconvenience.
And in PA, apparently you have to reregister for every election cycle.
Just curious but is there a good reason why states and counties don't run their voter files against the Social Security Death Index regularly, like perhaps monthly or quarterly?
It's not as if Americans who die in the US are not easy to detect.
OK - but why should incidents such as this one be a reason to stop Florida from removing names of actual ineligible voters?
There is a review process - and any errors can be corrected through such a protocol.
How about stop purging people until you get the system right and stop purging eligible voters??
The review process is a bad one and a flawed one. They send out letters and whoever gets the letter then has to go in person to the elections office within 30 days
Now, there are many people who simply can't take time off work on a whim like that. Not to mention how many will get something like this and throw it out thinking its just another in the massive amounts of election mail they receive (especially in a state like Florida).
On top of that the past results of something similar, shows the review process is badly flawed and many aren't notified. In 2000 they had the same thing with purging felons from the rolls, however many were not made aware of it and they were not actually felons. Some had similar names as felons, others were convicted of a misdemeanor, others had blank convictions, blank conviction dates, future conviction dates and some segregation era crimes as well such as black man falling asleep on a whites only bus stop bench.
The system is an absolute disaster, it needs to be fixed before more are thrown off the rolls.
Same thing this time around. Instead of only non-citizens being removed from the rolls, the system is flawed (people can make arguments on whether the flaws are on purpose or not, but its flawed nonetheless) and actual citizens are being removed as well. Several Florida papers had stores on eligible voters that were removed from the rolls as "non-citizens" when in fact they were citizens and eligible to vote.
If Hoemland Security had been cooperative and provided Florida with the data they requested it wouldn't be an issue. If the Obama administration is so concerned about eligible voters being effected why haven't they provided data that would help eliminate false positives?
The answer is simple, because that data would swell the amount identified as ineligible. They don't care about these eligible voters, their only concern is keeping the ineligible ones voting.
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