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Old 06-12-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said today that both Ronald Reagan and his father George H. W. Bush would have had a difficult time getting nominated by today's ultra-conservative Republican Party.

Jeb Bush Slams "Dysfunction" of Today's GOP, Says Reagan Could Not Be Nominated Today, Supports Gay Couples - Governor Jeb Bush - Zimbio

Never thought I'd agree with a Bush, but no one can honestly disagree with what he says in this article.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Now, wait a minute! He's saying that a conservative would have a hard time being nominated by the so-called "conservative" party?

What does that say about either the party itself or the type of "conservatives" Reagan and both Bush's were?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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Now, wait a minute! He's saying that a conservative would have a hard time being nominated by the so-called "conservative" party?

What does that say about either the party itself or the type of "conservatives" Reagan and both Bush's were?
Reagan and the Bushes were just "conservatives" in that the were on the right of the political spectrum, but not too far to the right.

I think nowadays, the party is dominated by the Pat Buchanan types of conservatives. Even though Buchanan hasn't run since 2000, the current party of Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum carry out his legacy of derangement and fanaticism.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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Easy to say as an "Ex-Politician".

That being said. Any previous elected POTUS would have a difficult time being elected by their own party. Today is more corrupt than ever. Why would the fat cats look backwards?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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The party has been hijacked by a fringe movement. The pitchfork crew is probably coming for Jeb as we speak. Independent thought is not encouraged. He must be pretty fed up to speak his mind.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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It's sad that the fringe movement dominates the GOP now. Some of the most successful Republicans of previous generations were moderates. (Abraham Lincoln, Dwight D. Eisenhower, George Romney, John V. Lindsay, Bob Dole, pre-2006 John McCain, ect.)
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:20 PM
 
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The party has been hijacked by a fringe movement. The pitchfork crew is probably coming for Jeb as we speak. Independent thought is not encouraged. He must be pretty fed up to speak his mind.
He realizes with the last name Bush he has no chance at another political office. He may as well just speak his mind.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Speaking about same-sex couples:

"I don’t think people need to be discriminated against because they don’t share my belief on this, and if people love their children with all their heart and soul and that’s what they do and that’s how they organize their life that should be held up as examples for others to follow because we need it. We desperately need it and that can take all sorts of forms, it doesn’t have to take the one that I think should be sanctioned under the law."

Well said, Jeb!
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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Where exactly is Romney more conservative than either?
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:49 PM
 
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The party has been hijacked by a fringe movement. The pitchfork crew is probably coming for Jeb as we speak. Independent thought is not encouraged. He must be pretty fed up to speak his mind.
True, I've seen many of the radical right wing outlets going into an uproar calling Jeb a RINO and other trash.
Today's GOP has gone so far to the right unless you are a radical right wing extremist, they will trash and discredit you for having any kind of somewhat rational views.
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