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Old 06-13-2012, 12:13 AM
 
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True, I've seen many of the radical right wing outlets going into an uproar calling Jeb a RINO and other trash.
Today's GOP has gone so far to the right unless you are a radical right wing extremist, they will trash and discredit you for having any kind of somewhat rational views.
I think the punditocracy and the political blogs contribute to this as well. Townhall.com and Humans Events are cesspools of hard-right only thought that have entire sections on bashing "RINOS" (any Republican to the left of Ronald Reagan).
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:22 AM
 
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although Jeb Bush was my Governor & I didn't vote for him who would have ever thought he would be to the left of the lunatic right wing that infects the GOP today?
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Now, wait a minute! He's saying that a conservative would have a hard time being nominated by the so-called "conservative" party?

What does that say about either the party itself or the type of "conservatives" Reagan and both Bush's were?
neither bush were conservatiev..they were very much globaists...which is certainly not conservative
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Reagan and the Bushes were just "conservatives" in that the were on the right of the political spectrum, but not too far to the right.

I think nowadays, the party is dominated by the Pat Buchanan types of conservatives. Even though Buchanan hasn't run since 2000, the current party of Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum carry out his legacy of derangement and fanaticism.
I dont call them buchanan or bachmann) conservatives....they are neo-cons....liberals who traited over to the conservative party

they spend like liberal..but have the "i'm saved" southern baptist religous crap

bith bushs were neo-cons too...reagan and bush sr didnt even get along

reagan hated freetrade...bush sr (as VP and potus) pushed the globalist policy that carter had started and then got it negotiated..then another globalist clinton pushed it though the congress and signed it
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Old 06-13-2012, 01:19 AM
 
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The party has been hijacked by a fringe movement. The pitchfork crew is probably coming for Jeb as we speak. Independent thought is not encouraged. He must be pretty fed up to speak his mind.
Whats astounds me is this extreme right fringe movement has actually got a viable chance of winning with the 1%'s puppet named Romney.
If thats what the majority of voters want then i guess we have to live by the rules of the game=majority rules.
Jeb Bush? i may disagree with some of his conservative policies, but i like the man and could more possibly vote for him than this idiot Romney.
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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What astounds me are the number of people here who self-identify as conservative and who acknowledge that Bush wasn't a conservative and neither is Mitt Romney, but they're willing to vote for them anyhow!

I mean...come on, folks...if you're a real Conservative, why on earth would you vote for a candidate you KNOW is not what you want? In the upcoming election, does your revulsion for Obama outweigh your ideological underpinnings? Is it more important to defeat him than to follow your conscience? If so, how on earth can you still call yourselves conservative?

All you're going to do by voting that way is put yourselves back into the same situation you find yourselves in today: Having to make endless excuses for your candidate not doing what you wanted him to do, though you KNEW he wasn't going to when you voted for him! Just like with the defense of George Bush, if you knowingly put the non-Conservative Romney into the White House, for the next umpteen years you'll have to find somebody to blame for his liberal excesses!

It'll either be that our you'll have to admit that you're a "conservative" who willingly, and with malice aforethought, voted for a liberal.

Heck, if you're that opportunistic and that little a conservative, you might as well vote for Obama.
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:56 AM
 
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Jeb is Jeb. GOP does have some issues but both parties do. But the problem is he is upset that establishment Republicans are feeling heat, and they should be. We need true conservatives not phonies or establishment type.

I'm glad you live get passionate about something at least, but you show how biased and cowardly you are getting hyped over this, yet most of you stay silent on WH leaks, Holder, fast/furious, etc
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:03 AM
 
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Former Florida Governor Jeb Bush said today that both Ronald Reagan and his father George H. W. Bush would have had a difficult time getting nominated by today's ultra-conservative Republican Party.

Jeb Bush Slams "Dysfunction" of Today's GOP, Says Reagan Could Not Be Nominated Today, Supports Gay Couples - Governor Jeb Bush - Zimbio

Never thought I'd agree with a Bush, but no one can honestly disagree with what he says in this article.
His father was a good president, but he was no Reagan.

He was a progressive squishy conservative at best,

Reagan would win in a landslide today.

BTW.....Jeb walked back those remarks later.....not that it matters.
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:11 AM
 
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His father was a good president, but he was no Reagan.

He was a progressive squishy conservative at best,

Reagan would win in a landslide today.

BTW.....Jeb walked back those remarks later.....not that it matters.
Of course he did.
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Old 06-13-2012, 05:37 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am waiting for this Renewed Republican Party to take up the slogan, "One people, One Party, One State." Then they can get on with completing the merger of industry, finance and government. Then they can work on purging the Liberals, Unionists, Socialists, Homosexuals, Catholics, Hindus, Jews, Hispanics, Blacks and all the other deviants out of government and society. The result will be a perfected state of Free White people working for the greater glory of their true capitalist leaders.
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