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Now all those recent grads that are looking for jobs can get them, at a lower cost to the state as well (entry level teacher's salary)
Win - win.
Most of my friends are looking at other states. Actually a lot are considering not going into teaching because this shows exactly where our values are placed...and its not education.
LMAO! Here are those Union members the GOP is spouting left the Union!!
When students return Thursday for the first day of school across Wisconsin, many familiar faces will be gone, as teachers chose retirement over coming back in the wake of a new law that forces them to pay more for benefits while taking away most of their collective bargaining rights.
Documents obtained by the Associated Press under the state’s open records law show that about twice as many public school teachers decided to hang it up in the first half of this year as in each of the past two full years, part of a mass exit of public employees.
Their departures came before the new law took effect, changes pushed by Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican Legislature that led to weeks of protests at the Capitol.
The ensuing exodus of teachers and other state employees has led to fears that the jobs might not be filled, and that classroom leadership by veteran teachers will be lost.
Ginny Fleck, a German teacher from Green Bay with 30 years of experience, is among nearly 5,000 teachers who retired.
“It wouldn’t make sense for me to teach one more year and basically lose $8,000,” she said. Fleck, 69, decided to retire in February, even before the bill became law, in part because of the hit she would take to her $60,000 annual salary, and because of other changes the district was making.
In the first six months of 2011, overall public employee retirements were double that in all of either 2009 or 2010, according to data provided to the AP by the Wisconsin Retirement System. That includes 4,935 Wisconsin school district employees who started receiving retirement benefits, up from 2,527 teacher retirements in all of 2010 and 2,417 in 2009.
Most of my friends are looking at other states. Actually a lot are considering not going into teaching because this shows exactly where our values are placed...and its not education.
You are just now figuring this out? Unless you were homeschooled you should have learned by age 18 when the kid scoring 4 touchdowns in a game over a rival HS got a 1/2 page article starting on the front page of the sports section while the national merit finalist or kid that got into the naval academy had a 50-word snippet on page 9.
Or perhaps you would have noticed that the head coach at Wisconsin makes 7-figures a year?
Ever driven on Brett Favre highway?
In case you haven't noticed, we are in an economic world of hurt. You probably haven't noticed because it sounds like you are still a student.
Please describe to me why the private sector should have to face economic pain but the public sector, fueled by private sector taxes should not.
Hmm, I thought you got what you paid for, so they will get a Republican education alright! Lets see, to ensure the new teach has a job forever, he lowers the number of correct answers needed to pass. ie Texas.
Wisconsin's new mantra: Cheat Baby Cheat!!
The newspaper examined test results for 70,000 public schools across the country and found high concentrations of suspicious scores in school systems.
For some odd reason you left out Chicago and Atlanta....and many more.
FYI - most of the cheating has occurred in impoverished school systems that aren't meeting no child left behind etc. Careful, you are treading very closely to being called a racist, it's the term du juor.
I can only assume that one of the best education systems in the country will now be down graded as skilled people abandon the mess the Republicans cheapskates are creating. In education, as in everything else, you get what you pay for. No money, no good teachers, no education so no future.
Too bad the creators of this debacle will not pay the cost. The next decade of students will. The rest of society will follow as employers leave for places with good schools and educated potential employees.
diminishing returns and tenure the stuff of historic charm
" In education, as in everything else, you get what you pay for."
Archaic philosophy that needs to be shelved along with tenure.
States must learn about the concept of diminishing returns especially as it relates to edu. Look at NJ for an outrageous example and resultant high property tax.
There comes a point where money becomes a surrogate solution to soothe the guilt of surrender for a lack of a creative approach to funding edu and actual effective education of students of varying abilities who 'learn' in different ways.
Newark, NJ has been handed 100 mill$$$ as a gift by Zuckerberg. Lets see what happens to that nest egg. So far they spent about 200k on a study and another similar amount to interpret the first study. Yep we need to throw money at edu. Makes you feel better doesn't it? Allows you to say, 'you care' about our children who represent our future.
maybe our students will then get an education instead of having the teachers asking for more benefits by raising the taxpayers taxes.
Riiiggghhhttt....a $15.00 hour teacher is really going to bust their butts teaching urban and working poor school kids, while the wealthy who got this passed continue to send their children to private schools or schools where you can't afford to live.
Oh well, nothing new from people who insist on slitting their own throats.
LMAO! Here are those Union members the GOP is spouting left the Union!!
When students return Thursday for the first day of school across Wisconsin, many familiar faces will be gone, as teachers chose retirement over coming back in the wake of a new law that forces them to pay more for benefits while taking away most of their collective bargaining rights.
Good, we need to flush out the teachers who are either politically partisan or union hacks and are only in it for the money. Heaven forbid the schools saved money, and the teachers actually pay a little for their fat, bloated retirement and pension plans.
Riiiggghhhttt....a $15.00 hour teacher is really going to bust their butts teaching urban and working poor school kids, while the wealthy who got this passed continue to send their children to private schools or schools where you can't afford to live.
Oh well, nothing new from people who insist on slitting their own throats.
1) There aren't 700,000 rich people in wisconsin voting for walker. Quite the opposite in fact. A lower middle class 100k home in Wisconsin will often pay 2500+ a year in property taxes....this is a taxpayer revolt with huge support from independents and yes...a lot of democratic Obama voters.
2) Your description of the WI schools is inaccurate. If you were describing metro-detroit then you'd be more accurate.
3) My public school system is excellent and 1/2 the kids that go there are on some sort of public assistance. There is a huge line of teachers trying to get work in our school system too.
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