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Old 06-27-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Oh please. Jindal and Rice would never be Romney's pick. They wouldn't bring him any votes and neither would excite the base. Romney is not that stupid to even consider them.

I don't know about that.

Both Rice and Jindal are pretty small, so it's likely that in a pinch, either one of them could easily be strapped to the top of Romney's tour bus.

After all, you never know when space might get tight.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The 719
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I could care less what religion Romney is nor what religion Obama is not. I don't like Romney for president and I'm a Republican.

I'm embarassed for the Republican Party that this is all "we" got.
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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I could care less what religion Romney is nor what religion Obama is not. I don't like Romney for president and I'm a Republican.

I'm embarassed for the Republican Party that this is all "we" got.

In your opinion, who would have been the idea Republican candidate?
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Old 06-27-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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In your opinion, who would have been the idea Republican candidate?
Ok you didn't ask me..... but my opinion is this year republican candidates suck. Romney was all they really had. I would watch for Bob Mcdonnell in the future though.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Ok you didn't ask me..... but my opinion is this year republican candidates suck. Romney was all they really had. I would watch for Bob Mcdonnell in the future though.

Well, McDonnell went to Notre Dame University, so he certaintly would satisfy the Republican Christian litmus test.

Geez! I just looked up his bio on Wikipedia. This guy makes Santorum look like a liberal.

No Thanks!
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Uh; Mormons ARE "Christian". LOL
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:49 PM
 
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It's pretty funny really. Here we have Romney, a Mormon who has locked up the nomination. The leading candidate for about a month before the primaries was Herman Cain, who was also the Tea Party favorite. The VP pack right now includes Bobby Jindal, of Indian ancestry, Marco Rubio Hispanic (albeit the NYT would probably classify him as 'white Hispanic'), and Condi Rice a black female.

Yet libs continue to bloviate that "wingnuts" are 'bigots' w/ strict religious litmus and skin tone tests. It's gotta be a case of projection; that's the only reasonable explanation I can see....
Agreed and I'm NOT a hardcore conservative.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: The 719
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In your opinion, who would have been the idea Republican candidate?
The ideal Republican candidate? I don't know. I'm not into politics. I would say a non-polititician... if that's even still possible.

I watched a program called "Inside Job" and it seemed eye-opening to me that the terms "republican" and "democrat"... "conservative" and "liberal" are just words that are force-fed to us and have no meaning in reality. Most of these folks seem like crooks to me and one isn't any better/worse than the next. Power and corruption abound and one little executive branch office hasn't seemed to be able to do much of anything short of lying their way into office.

Here's a nifty little signature; "Go Green! Recycle 100% of Congress in 2012."
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The ideal Republican candidate? I don't know. I'm not into politics. I would say a non-polititician... if that's even still possible.

I watched a program called "Inside Job" and it seemed eye-opening to me that the terms "republican" and "democrat"... "conservative" and "liberal" are just words that are force-fed to us and have no meaning in reality. Most of these folks seem like crooks to me and one isn't any better/worse than the next. Power and corruption abound and one little executive branch office hasn't seemed to be able to do much of anything short of lying their way into office.

Here's a nifty little signature; "Go Green! Recycle 100% of Congress in 2012."

I will have to agree that the old guard politicians in DC will tend to push any new blood that is elected to congress, to the party extremes. That's why being a true independent member of either party is just about impossible, these days. No more RINO's, and no more Blue Dogs.

And even if someone somehow did manage to actually try to operate as an independent, either party will move heaven and earth to ensure that that person will not be elected. So, we end up with the current polarized extremes.

As far as recycling congress, that's one of those ironic statements.

If we were to poll Americans and ask them if we should "throw the bums out," probably 90% would agree.

However, if you ask those same Americans if they will vote against their own current incumbant, they will probably say no. So, we end up with the current incumbant re-election percentage of 90- 95%.

In other words, Americans all think that their own local pols are great, and all problems are being caused by everyone else's elected officials. How convenient.

In the end, no one wants to be moderate, no one wants to compromize, and no one wants to sacrifice. Essentially, all Americans want to pay no taxes, yet have all services maintained or increased. The math just doesn't work.

When it's all said and done, we do a great job of giving ourselves tax cuts, (after all, who's against that?) but then do a terrible job of cutting services. End result, backbreaking debt for our children and grandchildren to deal with, in the form of budget deficits.

America in general, (BOTH PARTIES) should be ashamed of itself.
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Look at some of these articles, in 2008 and even today about Obama's supposed lack of Christianity.

Obama Isn't a Real Christian, Cont'd - Steven Waldman
blog.beliefnet.com/.../2008/08/obama-isnt-a-real-christian-co.htmlAug 7, 2008 – Obama can call himself anything he likes, but there is a clear requirement for one to qualify as a Christian and Obama doesn't meet that ...

Obama Isn't Anti-Catholic, Christian, or Jew. He's Anti-BIBLE ...
texan2driver.wordpress.com/.../obama-isnt-anti-catholic-christian-or-...Mar 8, 2012 – Obama Isn't Anti-Catholic, Christian, or Jew. ... April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” ...

Graham Not Sold on Obama's Christianity, Santorum Warned of ...
abcnews.go.com/.../graham-not-sold-on-obamas-christianity-santoru...Feb 21, 2012 – ... surer that Rick Santorum is a Christian than President Obama and a 2008 ... when did he become the authority on who is and isn't Christian?
Two-Thirds of Americans Don't Know Obama Is a Christian ...
swampland.time.com/2010/.../barack-obama-is-not-a-musli...

by Amy Sullivan - More by Amy Sullivan
Aug 19, 2010 – ... identify Obama as a Christian, compared to more than half (51%) who could do so during the 2008 campaign. But that huge drop isn't driven ...


Seriously and anyone who doesn't believe this is a fool: If Romney was the Christian and Obama or whomever else an LDS member, the GOP and it's PAC's would swamp the country with ad's and blogs attacking the Democratic candidate's LDS faith and saying that this is a Christian nation and the candidate is not fit for office, since he's not a Christian.

While I know that often Democrats are the lesser of 2 evils, well, at least they're not just cruel and vicious and mean.

In summary, why is the GOP, giving Romney's religion a pass, when in 2008, a lot of them were rabid about Obama's supposed religion (Muslim)? Please, just go away GOP. Hypocrites.
  1. Obama's claims to be Christian are a fraud. He believes in "black liberation theology" (Not Christian).
  2. Obama believes in "collective salvation" (not a Christian idea), not individual salvation.
  3. Obama attended a private Muslim school in Kenya as a boy. He is quite familiar with Islam, and shows favoritism toward Muslims. He even supports the terrorist organization Muslim Brotherhood which recently took power in Egypt.
  4. Obama is a racist, evil human being with a hatred for America and our system. He wishes our destruction.
  5. Obama was steeped in communism and socialism as a boy (mentored by Frank Marshall Davis). This is where his political beliefs come from.
As for Mitt Romney
  1. Romney is a good man who loves his country, and his fellow man.
  2. As a Mormon, his theology is far closer to true Christianity, and in fact in the areas of importance to us as Americans looking for a leader with a good moral compass, the differences are meaningless.
  3. Mitt Romney will do us no harm.
  4. Mitt Romney is not a communist (or a socialist).
  5. Mitt Romney, I believe, understands why Islam is a threat to America, and Americans.
  6. Mitt Romney knows how wealth is created (and destroyed) and will use his experience to rebuild our economy.
  7. Mitt Romney knows that the Government does not create jobs, nor is it the answer to social ills.
Need I go on?
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