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Old 07-02-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Originally Posted by Who?Me?! View Post
""I was noting that our current situation is exacerbated by people who simply sleep around without concern for the consequences. The taking precautions would have an affect on the number of unwanted pregnancies, and the number of children born into situations where they cannot be properly provided for. """


Ya think!
Now you just keep wishin' and hopin' human nature will change after all these thousands of years and I'll keep hopin' I win the lottery and become immortal...
So, Mr Thousands of years.....

If human nature is to do whatever they please without regard to the consequences of their actions, why hasn't the problem been this bad all along?

I'll tell you why. Because there was a time when people took more responsibility for their actions. They wore condoms, and took precautions. Tell me, ever been to Japan, South Korea, or even Spain? They are human, yet THEY don't seem to have this problem, in fact Spain last time I bothered to look was a country in the bottom 5 in abortion percentage to number of women...

If it's so "Human nature", why do we NOT have the same problem everywhere with the same percentages? We are all human?

MAYBE, the answer is, some people take precautions, some don't. Human nature is the same world over, PEOPLE are different, in the way they do things, based on culture, upbringing, morals, laws, etc etc.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa (by way of Omaha)
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So, Mr Thousands of years.....

If human nature is to do whatever they please without regard to the consequences of their actions, why hasn't the problem been this bad all along?

I'll tell you why. Because there was a time when people took more responsibility for their actions. They wore condoms, and took precautions. Tell me, ever been to Japan, South Korea, or even Spain? They are human, yet THEY don't seem to have this problem, in fact Spain last time I bothered to look was a country in the bottom 5 in abortion percentage to number of women...

If it's so "Human nature", why do we NOT have the same problem everywhere with the same percentages? We are all human?

MAYBE, the answer is, some people take precautions, some don't. Human nature is the same world over, PEOPLE are different, in the way they do things, based on culture, upbringing, morals, laws, etc etc.
Just curious, but maybe it has to do with education (abandoning the absurdity of abstinence only policy) and easier access to contraception?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I am not for making abortion illegal.

But it seems like the safe and responsible thing to make sure doctors providing outpatient procedures are credentialed at a local hospital in case something goes wrong and they need full OR and resuscitation facilities.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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But Republicans are quite strongly against the government helping poor women get birth control.
Correct. It's called "personal responsibility", a phrase that libs seem to cower from and fear.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Then to put a stop to abortion, do you demand a law be passed requiring all pregnant women to give birth. Women who break the law have to get sterilized?
Straw man alert. Where did I say that?
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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But Republicans are quite strongly against the government helping poor women get birth control.
Poor, rich, middle class......to lefties, expecting personal responsibility equals being cruel.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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So Mr Roeder's late termination of Mr Tiller actually hasn't had the dire consequences you posted of? No unsafe abortions, no women dead or maimed because of them because they didn't occur as you feared. Praise God!
Care to provide a link to support this statement?

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I don't think a late termination of Tiller the Killer is something I'd do myself.
You "don't think" you'd kill a father of four and a grandfather of ten? My God, please seek help. And by the way, this is what makes you a hypocrite. You obviously don't value life.
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Old 07-02-2012, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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It won't end abortion in Mississippi. It will end safe abortion.
Exactly.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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"Children are suffering from a hidden epidemic of child abuse and neglect. Every year 3.3 million reports of child abuse are made in the United States involving 6 million children; that’s because reports can include multiple children. The United States has the worst record in the industrialized nation – losing five children every day due to abuse-related deaths."
National Child Abuse Statistics | Childhelp
You quoted this in response to someone talking about unwanted children not being unwanted after they were born.

I don't want what you are implying, I want to know, in your own words, what you are getting at here. Please explain, in your words, what you are trying to say and/or prove with this quote.

Thank you.
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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I can think of hundreds of GD people I wouldn't mind killing.

If I were king I effing would.
so pro life of you
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