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It's interesting how those who bristle at the notion that they should be coerced into having health insurance (if they can afford it) never follow that up by saying that they would refuse treatment beyond their pocket book.
If you believe you have a Constitutional right not to partake in health insurance and pay premiums into the healthcare system while you're healthy, why should you then have a right to receive any treatment beyond what you can afford if you fall seriously ill?
It's "socialism" to make you have health insurance...but it's somehow not "socialism" to make me - an insurance-paying citizen - indirectly pay for you through my deductibles, co-pays, and premiums when you turn up at the hospital and require very expensive treatment from the system you refused to pay into? How is this not hypocritical?
I think that we should amend the law to say that health insurance is entirely optional, but those who could afford it and refused must sign a contract agreeing that all health care will cease as soon as their ability or willingness to pay is exceeded, whichever comes first.
Because the great Republican God, Reagan said that anybody who wants care can get it at the local ER whether they have the ability to pay or not.
when the Evil Democratic Satan, Obama expands on this idea, it is the end of civilization in America as we know it.
It's interesting how those who bristle at the notion that they should be coerced into having health insurance (if they can afford it) never follow that up by saying that they would refuse treatment beyond their pocket book.
If you believe you have a Constitutional right not to partake in health insurance and pay premiums into the healthcare system while you're healthy, why should you then have a right to receive any treatment beyond what you can afford if you fall seriously ill?
It's "socialism" to make you have health insurance...but it's somehow not "socialism" to make me - an insurance-paying citizen - indirectly pay for you through my deductibles, co-pays, and premiums when you turn up at the hospital and require very expensive treatment from the system you refused to pay into? How is this not hypocritical?
I think that we should amend the law to say that health insurance is entirely optional, but those who could afford it and refused must sign a contract agreeing that all health care will cease as soon as their ability or willingness to pay is exceeded, whichever comes first.
That would be more fair.
While you are being perfectly logical, almost none of the opponents of UHC are willing to leave people to die. Unfortunately, they seem more than willing to have you and me pay for the uninsured while preserving their idealogical purity on the subject.
Because the great Republican God, Reagan said that anybody who wants care can get it at the local ER whether they have the ability to pay or not.
when the Evil Democratic Satan, Obama expands on this idea, it is the end of civilization in America as we know it.
The Evil Democratic Satan Obama is trying to find a way for everyone to pay for the health care that Reagan mandated but neglected to figure out how to pay for.
It's interesting how those who bristle at the notion that they should be coerced into having health insurance (if they can afford it) never follow that up by saying that they would refuse treatment beyond their pocket book.
So, you actually know people like this or is this just a ridiculous straw-man argument to get the other nitwits around here all riled up at some imaginary bad guy?
It's interesting how those who bristle at the notion that they should be coerced into having health insurance (if they can afford it) never follow that up by saying that they would refuse treatment beyond their pocket book.
If you believe you have a Constitutional right not to partake in health insurance and pay premiums into the healthcare system while you're healthy, why should you then have a right to receive any treatment beyond what you can afford if you fall seriously ill?
It's "socialism" to make you have health insurance...but it's somehow not "socialism" to make me - an insurance-paying citizen - indirectly pay for you through my deductibles, co-pays, and premiums when you turn up at the hospital and require very expensive treatment from the system you refused to pay into? How is this not hypocritical?
I think that we should amend the law to say that health insurance is entirely optional, but those who could afford it and refused must sign a contract agreeing that all health care will cease as soon as their ability or willingness to pay is exceeded, whichever comes first.
That would be more fair.
This is a great idea. It keeps costs down for those of us that responsibily buy health care insurance, while still providing the freedom of choice that the right wing 'freedom fighters' long for.
However, if we did that, who would pay the cost of hauling off the carcasses of the millions of dead teabaggers, who shrewdly refused treatment?
Maybe Obama could create a "dumb dead teabagger" tax, so that we could charge their estates, for the cost of hauling them off.
These people speak from both ends. Remember, these are the same folks who...
- wanted protections for health insurance industry.
- were whining and crying about government getting between them and their insurance companies
- now they are whining and crying about government ensuring they subscribe to these insurance companies.
Well, you'll still be seeing these types at hospitals. That will not go away with Obamacare.
More illegal immigrants getting emergency treatment at UMC - News - ReviewJournal.com
Six months after the Review-Journal revealed that 80 illegal immigrants with failing kidneys were running up about $2 million a month in bills for dialysis and other medical treatment at the only publicly supported hospital in Las Vegas, the situation for both patients and taxpayers only continues to worsen.
Illegal Immigration Enters the Health-Care Debate - WSJ.com Emergency-room visits, where treatment costs are much higher than in clinics, jumped 32% nationally between 1996 and 2006, the latest data available. The role illegal immigrants play in U.S. health-care costs is "one hot button that no one wants to touch," says Stephen Zuckerman, an economist at the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington.
These illegal aliens are enrolled in a program called MassHealth Limited at taxpayer expense, this is not a case of illegal aliens receiving free healthcare because they use the emergency room as a doctor’s office for routine visits as we are told is so often the case.
It's interesting how those who bristle at the notion that they should be coerced into having health insurance (if they can afford it) never follow that up by saying that they would refuse treatment beyond their pocket book.
If you believe you have a Constitutional right not to partake in health insurance and pay premiums into the healthcare system while you're healthy, why should you then have a right to receive any treatment beyond what you can afford if you fall seriously ill?
It's "socialism" to make you have health insurance...but it's somehow not "socialism" to make me - an insurance-paying citizen - indirectly pay for you through my deductibles, co-pays, and premiums when you turn up at the hospital and require very expensive treatment from the system you refused to pay into? How is this not hypocritical?
I think that we should amend the law to say that health insurance is entirely optional, but those who could afford it and refused must sign a contract agreeing that all health care will cease as soon as their ability or willingness to pay is exceeded, whichever comes first.
That would be more fair.
They prefer their own brand of socialism.
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