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Old 07-06-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams: Public education a problem | The Daily Caller
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:31 PM
 
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Don't know about the KKK analogy but I agree with this:

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That is not true today when we have so much utter nonsense taking up time, and we have so many judicial rulings making it impossible to maintain discipline.”
Liberals have removed discipline from public schools and lowered the bar.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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Well there you have it, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams say it so it must be so...

I think that black "intellectuals" and their fellow travelers (see Alan West) will find themselves responsible for a modified adaption of Godwin's Law for their predilection for hyperbolic false equivalencies.

By the way, are Sowell and Williams the only black (I wouldn't want to offend their conservative sensitivities by referring to them as African American) public intellectuals that reactionaries know?
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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Well there you have it, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams say it so it must be so...

I think that black "intellectuals" and their fellow travelers (see Alan West) will find themselves responsible for a modified adaption of Godwin's Law for their predilection for hyperbolic false equivalencies.

By the way, are Sowell and Williams the only black (I wouldn't want to offend their conservative sensitivities by referring to them as African American) public intellectuals that reactionaries know?
Yes they are.

Here is the thing why is it that every so called black conservative has negative stuff to say about black people? I have never once heard a so called black conservative say anything positive about black people.

It is always negative. These black conservatives aren't talking to black people, they are appealing to other people who don't like black people.


In fact, the whole spiel of many black conservatives is I am not like the rest of those people who want handouts and to deal with racism. I am a true patriot who loves America and hates black people just like you do.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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Talk host Ken Hamblin, aka the black avenger, used to say this. He used to say (paraphrase) "if I were a Klan member, I can't think of a better strategy to advance my agenda than that of the pub ed establishment.

W Bush also had an eloquent way of putting it: "the soft bigotry of low expectations."
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:54 PM
 
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I'll bite, but not in the way you wanted. How about you share your list of Black public intellectuals. It will be helpful for me to understand how and why you think the way you do. Though, I really don't think of myself as reacting. Had I reacted all of my life, instead of acting, my life would have had a much different outcome.
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Well there you have it, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams say it so it must be so...

I think that black "intellectuals" and their fellow travelers (see Alan West) will find themselves responsible for a modified adaption of Godwin's Law for their predilection for hyperbolic false equivalencies.

By the way, are Sowell and Williams the only black (I wouldn't want to offend their conservative sensitivities by referring to them as African American) public intellectuals that reactionaries know?
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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Well there you have it, Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams say it so it must be so...

I think that black "intellectuals" and their fellow travelers (see Alan West) will find themselves responsible for a modified adaption of Godwin's Law for their predilection for hyperbolic false equivalencies.

By the way, are Sowell and Williams the only black (I wouldn't want to offend their conservative sensitivities by referring to them as African American) public intellectuals that reactionaries know?
Typical Black liberal, attack the messenger but don't offer any rebuttal to what has been said. I guess you're okay with the continued substandard performance of many Blacks in public schools?
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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Yes they are.

Here is the thing why is it that every so called black conservative has negative stuff to say about black people? I have never once heard a so called black conservative say anything positive about black people.

It is always negative. These black conservatives aren't talking to black people, they are appealing to other people who don't like black people.


In fact, the whole spiel of many black conservatives is I am not like the rest of those people who want handouts and to deal with racism. I am a true patriot who loves America and hates black people just like you do.
The whole spiel of Black liberals is to deny and deflect the real problems facing Black Americans. They'll denounce anyone as racist who points out the disparities or if they are Black call them Uncle Toms or Oreos. All the while voting for and supporting the same failed policies year after year.

Black liberals are an enlightened bunch that's for sure.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:07 PM
 
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The whole spiel of Black liberals is to deny and deflect the real problems facing Black Americans. They'll denounce anyone as racist who points out the disparities or if they are Black call them Uncle Toms or Oreos. All the while voting for and supporting the same failed policies year after year.

Black liberals are an enlightened bunch that's for sure.
What are black American problems? I didn't know that national social problems had a racial identity.

So enlighten me all about how messed up black Americans are in your opinion.
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Old 07-06-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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I'll bite, but not in the way you wanted. How about you share your list of Black public intellectuals. It will be helpful for me to understand how and why you think the way you do. Though, I really don't think of myself as reacting. Had I reacted all of my life, instead of acting, my life would have had a much different outcome.
Where would you like me to start? W.E.B Dubois moving forward? That would be too much ground for you to cover so I'll limit it to contemporary pedagogy and suggest Dr. Rod Paige, a Bush appointee, author of The Black-White Achievement Gap: Why Closing It Is the Greatest Civil Rights Issue of Our Time and Princeton Professor Angel Harris, author of Kids Don’t Want to Fail: Oppositional Culture and the Black-White Achievement Gap.

You might be surprised by the "conservative" ideas that they and I ascribe to when it comes to education without the concomitant appeal to white reactionary sensibilities.
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