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Old 07-10-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Straight talk - and common sense -
If I said the sky was blue, that poster would call me a liar, and you would agree with her.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:37 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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You did. People who do homosexual acts are homosexuals. Just like a person who drives a cab is a cab driver (except that is not innate, but I hope you understand the point). Committing the acts habitually typically means you were more than most likely born homosexual. So please explain. I'm homosexual and I don't like PDA. So of course its a subsection.
Homosexuals are persons, and persons are neither moral nor immoral - they just are. Only actions are moral or immoral.

Besides, not everyone with same-sex attraction acts on those attractions, or wants to. You might call such a person a homosexual, but if he refrains from immoral actions his SSA is beside the point.

What does PDA have to do with the hyper-sexualized and pornographic culture of homosexuality?
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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If I said the sky was blue, that poster would call me a liar, and you would agree with her.
Well I wouldn't call you a liar - but the sky actually isn't blue - it just appears that way.

I could go into the whole physics of this phenomenon - but that is rather beside the point.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Simple economics -- the focus of the entire campaign is to provide additional taxpayer-funded "security" for a group which has, for the most part, already shunned the burdens of raising a family and the more-disciplined lifesytle which goes with those obligations.

What part of THAT can't you understand?
My husband and I chose not to have children. Does that mean we should get divorced?
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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My husband and I chose not to have children. Does that mean we should get divorced?
And my partner and I have 3 children.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Well I wouldn't call you a liar - but the sky actually isn't blue - it just appears that way.

I could go into the whole physics of this phenomenon - but that is rather beside the point.
Yes dear, refraction of light and all that.
Still doesnt negate my point, perhaps if I said the earth was round.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:50 PM
 
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I'm pretty conservative in many ways, but I am all for gay marriage.

Why? Because if you are a true conservative, then you are against the wholesale intervention of government into private lives. That means if two consenting adults want to be permanently linked in marriage, it's really not my business at all.

I don't understand why so many people don't get the disconnect between being conservative on other issues and being conservative on this.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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Why? That's all. Just state a reason.
I don't care if gays decide to perform a private ceremony and marry each other.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I don't care if gays decide to perform a private ceremony and marry each other.
Me neither - they can call themselves "married" all they want - don't force me to legally acknowledge it.
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Old 07-10-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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I am not against gay marriage I am against gay activists flaunting their lifestyle to the entire world...I mean think about it you think holding parades and having posters of penis's and men kissing all over each other and groping each other is going to help your cause at all? I personally don't want homosexuals near me but I am sure if I met someone who was gay I would change my mind if they weren't what I call an activist who thinks EVERYONE has to accept their lifestyle. No one is every going to accept every person's lifestyle so instead of complaining about it why not just accept it and live your life your way? I think government needs to get out of every faucet of marriage including issuing marriage licenses,forcing businesses to accept homosexuals partners on their insurance etc etc..yeah I think its idiotic to not allow someone on your insurance if you are married to them but if it's their business then not my fight.Homosexuals are trying to fight the world and in the process are turning everyone against them. Why not advocate that government get out of marriage instead of government recognize ALL marriage?
I literally walked in pants and a long sleeve shirt in the dead of summer. I didn't even hold my boyfriend's hand. Everyone I was with was dressed in normal everyday clothes. Again, some people (gay or straight) flaunt their sexuality. That in of itself is not a bad thing (except when it exposes little children or is in the wrong setting). However, to portray all homosexuals in this vein is simply inaccurate and quite stupid.

I remember the guilt I felt as a little kid when I realized that not only did I have a crush on Natalie, but also on Chris. When I mean I was the top Sunday school kid, I went to Bible competitions as a little kid and won awards. I was always popular in school. I was in student government from 4th grade to college. I ran varsity track, cross country, and was a member of drama (I hate musicals, mostly for the easy A that Drama club gave in IB Drama and IB English). I went to college in hopes of attaining a med degree, but decided to become a teacher. I was in a fraternity. I like shooting, playing video games, debating politics, running, hiking, rock climbing, surfing, and also just hanging out with friends. I'm pretty average for a guy in their mid 20s. I just want to settle down and have a family. I can't. I have to worry about what states to live in. Worry about if I can adopt or not. Worry about if my insurance will cover my partner once/if we reach that stage. Worry about if communities are safe to live in (some places will drive you out of town). Worry about what relatives think. Worry about the loss of friends (fortunately this hasn't occurred, yet). I have to worry about the fact that if something happens I would not be able to see my boyfriend. I worry about if I lose my job because of loving my boyfriend. I need to be more diligent than the average person. Why? Because of intolerance and lack of acceptance. Sometimes it has made my life a living nightmare, and hearing horror stories from my friends I'm one of the lucky ones.

Honestly, if this were a choice, it would be a stupid choice. All the feelings of guilt and hardship that come because of bigotry, intolerance, and ignorance make life hard. I've been lucky that I was masculine and more able to fit social norms. This enabled me to not get bullied. In fact, most of my buddies were happy. That would have been an extra layer of crap to add on.

It saddens me when people are this against homosexuals when the vast majority of time we are just normal people who happen to love the same sex.
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