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Old 07-11-2012, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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They vote for what is in THEIR best interests.

You know, kind of like those millionaires and billionaires who vote Republican for the tax cuts and for cracking down on those pesky unions? Or the gun shop owners who vote Democratic because of the huge increase in gun sales whenever we get a Democrat in office?
let's face it. blacks hate captialism.. they have something against jobs. How do you think the middle class became middle class? They don't live in a ghetto. They got a job.. best interest for the blacks.. ha ha!!
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Florida
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So using the name game than mitt would be considered to be corperatist which would make him a terrible president since he would work for the major companies and not for the American people. Oh btw, guess what medicare and the VA hospitals have in common? They are both socialist programs! I guess that we should eliminate them for sake of democracy
No they are not socialist programs.. they are benefit programs. One who serves in the military has that benefit.. they paid with service to their country and some paid dearly with limbs or depression. So why shouldn't they get care?

The medicare program people had money taken out of their paychecks..yes, maybe you never knew that.. get a paycheck and see it is deducted..

Now Romney wants to change medicare and social security. He wants it to be adjusted to what people have at retirement.. the rich will get less and the poor will get a bigger social security check to live on . Now does that sound like it is for the rich?? Rich will have to pay more for their medicare deductibles and the poor will be adjusted to what the can afford.

Now who do you know who put in their money for free health care or food stamps or welfare? It is a freebee.
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Oh, and Obama was qualified?? Now come on ,, you got to have a better debate or you look foolish. So what is a sell out?? Explain... sell out to what. White people.. do you know Obama is half white?Now if you want to call Obama an oreo it would fit him better than Cain. Now Cain is all black.

Ok for one he is already the president and has been for the past 3 years, mitt has been the president of nothing but companies that raid other companies. I already gave explanations and examples of known sellouts. Your lack of literacy does not dictate that I have to repeat myself. Please quote where mentioned anything about oreos. cain was a idoit and even comparing him to Obama or any black or white politican with a lick of sense is an insult

So what is the sell out?? Still waiting what the republican party is soo bad for blacks?? Because they want to create jobs for everyone including blacks to get them out of the ghetto? Oh,, that is so bad. A sell out .

Where were you during the primaries hiding under your trailor? Every one of the republicans (except Ron Paul) have said something negative about blacks in order to appeal to their base, so why would any blacks run to support any of them? Do you want to know a secret? All blacks do not live in the ghetto and therefore do not need some white or other politican to help them get out of one. Btw, please explain to us all what republican plan do they have to get the "blacks out of the ghetto"? Hell they don't even have a plan to get the stupid educated which you have already proved to be true.

I don't see what the dems have done for the blacks or Obama.. Blacks are over 14% unemployed and with a president that is half black... the blacks are not doing so good under Obama. The ghettos are probably growing . A friend of mine in NJ who is black had his cousin come up for North Carolina only to be stopped by thugs with a gun and took her purse, jewelry she was wearing and even her sweater.. Now come on.. the black community is not getting any better with blacks shooting blacks. You need a wake up call to know that the republicans want to help blacks succeed. But no, you call anyone who has the message that job creation is the way and the blacks shoot down all the black republicans . So what do you get from being a democrat? poverty and unemployment.
What did you expect him to do for just the blacks? Hell, the republicans won't even let him help poor whites! Your "friend's" cousin is suppose to be protected by Obama? He would have been robbed even if McCain and palying was in the White House so what is your point? Personally I would thank the republicans for not approving bills to provide more police on the streets that sure helped alot. Another news flash, poor neighborhoods around the country (yes this includes whites as well) are doing bad, but not as bad as they were when bush was in office. And since reading is fundamental (for some of us apparently is not) where did I say that I admonished all republicans? Since the teabaggers have gotten into Congress what jobs bill or anything that resembles something that would decrease unemployment have they submitted, except that crap called the keystone pipeline?
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Old 07-11-2012, 10:59 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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No they are not socialist programs.. they are benefit programs. One who serves in the military has that benefit.. they paid with service to their country and some paid dearly with limbs or depression. So why shouldn't they get care?

The medicare program people had money taken out of their paychecks..yes, maybe you never knew that.. get a paycheck and see it is deducted..

That being the case what makes Obama a socailist then?

Now Romney wants to change medicare and social security. He wants it to be adjusted to what people have at retirement.. the rich will get less and the poor will get a bigger social security check to live on . Now does that sound like it is for the rich?? Rich will have to pay more for their medicare deductibles and the poor will be adjusted to what the can afford.

Have you seen the paul ryan budget that mitt is endorsing? Come to think of it the wealthy do not use medicare so how are they paying more for their deductibles? If you can please show us all where this so-called plan comes from? From what you are saying means that the rich will be taxed a little more which will not happen under mitt as long as the norquist plan is in effect

Now who do you know who put in their money for free health care or food stamps or welfare? It is a freebee.
So are the the subsidies that go to the big farmers from the Dept of Agriculture. Healthcare has never been free and please explain to us all what is the plan that the republicans have in Obamacare place? Ok..I'll wait..................<deafing silence> Under the old system the people who could not afford proper care often waited until the probelm became so bad they went to the ER and were treated. Now who do you think paid for that? The only differences between the wealthy getting subsidies and the poor getting welfare is the amount of money and the the wealthy have lobbyist
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:03 AM
 
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let's face it. blacks hate captialism.. they have something against jobs. How do you think the middle class became middle class? They don't live in a ghetto. They got a job.. best interest for the blacks.. ha ha!!
You're a racist just like Allen West, no wonder you support him.

Do you even know what a ghetto is?
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: USA
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You're answer proves what I've said before, that any time a black conservative is critized the right will claim it's racism.

I think it might be because of this impression you somehow got that we're super sensitive to being called racist or being seen as racist and want to avoid it at all cost, so you think that by crying racism then we'll stop critizing them. I don't think that works with too many people and it certainly doesn't work with me.

The article is in no way racist, not even close. There is not an once of racism in that article. It is 100% non racist. You absurd claim that they would have gone easier on a white guy is proof of that
Yup, racism only works when it is convenient for them. With that being said, most blacks should not even care what Allen West has to say.
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: USA
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let's face it. blacks hate captialism.. they have something against jobs. How do you think the middle class became middle class? They don't live in a ghetto. They got a job.. best interest for the blacks.. ha ha!!
As if most black people in the ghetto do not have jobs? Thank you for your second post of the day which makes me laugh!
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Old 07-11-2012, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Sunbelt
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Obvious troll is obvious. And if it's not a troll,...damn. I recommend they go to shutter island.

This is purely a double standard on several points.

1. Blacks who don't support West are racists.
Wait, so essentially what you are saying is that we can't choose who we want to vote for, because otherwise we are racists. If I don't agree with West, why should I vote him? But if I choose the Democratic party, I'm being a slave and following orders to vote Democrat. But if I listen to you and vote for West, aren't I being a slave and following orders to vote Republican?

2. Democrats who disagree with West are racists, but Republicans who disagree with Obama are victims.
What? So if I call West an idiot because I think his views are way out there, I'm racist for disagreeing with a black Rep. But if you call Obama an idiot, you are a victim, because some Dem will disagree with you, and then you will call them a racist for saying you are wrong for disagreeing with Obama. See how confusing that all is? And how none of it makes sense?

3 (My personal favorite). Black people who vote for Obama are racists.
Please. Try to tell me that you voted Republican because you don't have an utter loathing for the Democrat party. Because for several of these conservatives, I can bring up several posts where you disparage liberals and Democrats. So don't act like you are some open-minded well-rounded individual that takes voting in every election with pride. You're not. All you've listen to some conservative media outlet spew its twisted truths and then harp them like you came up with them in some original thinking. NO. Just like you say Black people vote for Democrats, you only vote for Republicans. It's no different. The only point of those arguments is to make the other side seem terrible while at the same time making a disgusting attempt to convince the other side that they are sheep. Guess what? You're sheep too. And while you argue about whether voting Dem or Rep is good, the corporations pay off all the politicians so they don't even promote your interest anyway.

But I guess you guys are right, so I will be voting for Allen West.

/s

Oh and there's no racism in the LA times article. For those who are confused, read the LA TIMES article not the Blaze.
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Old 07-11-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Yup, racism only works when it is convenient for them. With that being said, most blacks should not even care what Allen West has to say.

These are also the same non military fools that think that he is a hero, when in actuality he could be considered to be a borderline war criminal. Personally I hope that he trips and breaks his neck while trying to kiss a midget teabagger's butt trying to get their vote
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Old 06-17-2014, 12:57 PM
 
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Allen West whining that this article is racist would be another race card. The article is not racist in the least and no con has been able to show me where any racism is

the article is here
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus does his best to apologize for GOP clown prince Allen West, but will standing up for wing nuts ultimately help Republicans or hurt them? - Los Angeles Times

West whining about the article is here
‘True Racism’: Allen West Calls Out Liberals Who Think Black Conservatives Need ‘Approval’ From Their ‘Masters’ | Video | TheBlaze.com

In the comments on the second link I'm one of the "suspended users"
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