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Old 07-15-2012, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Whats shocking is that after how many years, we still have people like you actually believing that taxing people = more insurance
Who's getting taxed? Not me, maybe some freeloader as Mitt likes to put it. 20-30 million more people will be insured and thats a good thing.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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People wanting to become doctors were so put off by ObamaCare that they decided apply in record numbers.

Anyone claiming that doctors will be quitting because of Obama Care should not worry. There are plenty of people ready to take there place.

Medical News: First-Time Med School Applicants Hits Record - in Public Health & Policy, Medical Education from MedPage Today
Yeah, that should be plenty to take care of he 30 million newly insured. I feel better.
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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They're obviously not aware of Obama's 'war against specialists' either, since staying in school to become a cardiologist, neurosurgeon will be the only way that they'll be able to pay off their loans once they open their own practice.

Their only option should they decide to stick to graduating from a typical medical school would be to open a 'concierge medicine' practice, in which they don't take anything but cash, have NO dealings whatsoever with HMOs or insurance companies, and see substantially less patients than your typical MD, which allows them to actually practice medicine as opposed to shuffling papers.

Suffice it to say that blockheads such as Waxman are infuriated about this, and totally bent out of shape about this.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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They're obviously not aware of Obama's 'war against specialists' either, since staying in school to become a cardiologist, neurosurgeon will be the only way that they'll be able to pay off their loans once they open their own practice.

Their only option should they decide to stick to graduating from a typical medical school would be to open a 'concierge medicine' practice, in which they don't take anything but cash, have NO dealings whatsoever with HMOs or insurance companies, and see substantially less patients than your typical MD, which allows them to actually practice medicine as opposed to shuffling papers.


Years ago I knew of a couple Doctors Offices(one was a group) that worked that way, NO appointments(FCFS), NO insurance accepted(cash only), they had packed waiting rooms all day, if it turned out to be serious, you were referred to another doctor. One closed when the doctor retired and I don't know what happen to the group office.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Told ya some usual RWNJ would try and spin this into something bad. As long as there are sick humans, there will be medical Drs, most of whom don't do it primarily for financial gain. I know this will upset conservatives but some people choose professions because they are honorable.
Would your honorable profession talk be anything like me continuing in teaching high school kids all those years when it sure wasn't the most rewarding profession around?
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Who's getting taxed? Not me, maybe some freeloader as Mitt likes to put it. 20-30 million more people will be insured and thats a good thing.
And maybe you could explain who pays for the care of those 20 to 30 million new people. They don't have insurance now because they can't afford it, people like you keep saying. You tend to ignore those who are in the20 to30 age group who prefer to have fancy cars and extravagant living quarters to having insurance. Will they be taken care of in the same manner as the others?
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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While I don't think docs will be fleeing the profession....

Um, what do you think grads do when facing a brutal job market? They apply to med school, grad school etc etc. since they don't want to make $10/hr at starbucks while staring at student loan payments that wouldn't defer once they are out of school.

Just partisan bickering between the RWNJ's and the LWNJ's....the usual.
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Who's getting taxed? Not me, maybe some freeloader as Mitt likes to put it. 20-30 million more people will be insured and thats a good thing.
They may have insurance, but what they need is doctors, and they won't get to see a doctor.
Hopefully the piece of paper that says they have insurance will cure them, because their will be no doctors to see...
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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Amazing isn't it. With 20-30 million more insured, it's shocking that more people would want to be Drs. I'm sure this will be spun as a horrible occurence by the usual RWNJ.
Your assertion is that 30 million people don't go to the doctor or use medical services because they are uninsured (therefore less demand for doctors). I'll remind you that the issue is that these people ARE using medical services without being able to pay for it. I bet even YOU understand the ignorance of your assumption once you stop to think about it.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:20 PM
 
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Yeah, that should be plenty to take care of he 30 million newly insured. I feel better.
The uninsured were still seeing doctors before being insured.

That's kinda where a lot of the equity and savings is in that previously, we were paying for their healthcare in the form of higher costs due to those write-offs. Hopefully we will see declining costs as those write-offs decrease....especially at the emergency room.

THere are a number of insurance papers written on this topic, but everyone is so partisan around here facts don't matter.
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