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Old 07-18-2012, 08:33 AM
 
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Funny how liberals demonize businesses yet when do they ever go after the Universities for what they charge for tuition? When do they ever go after the liberal professors for what they make?
Cost to attend college is higher and higher. For someone to go to college, using student loans and graduating without a job, their future is very dim. How do they repay student loans with a $10 an hour job? Then there are those that can't afford to go to college at all.

Colleges and Universities pay high salaries with yearly raises to all their administrators and professors, many of whom English is not their first language, making learning very difficult. Why doesn't the Big O REALLY do something helpful to the American people and make higher education affordable for them?
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Public v. Private


Nice try at a spin.


How about the CEO of the Private school?
Libs wouldn't be able to figure that out.

BUT...........can you imagine how they'd scream if the CEO of a private Christian school made 6 figures? OMG, they would screech 'til their heads fell off.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:35 AM
 
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Cost to attend college is higher and higher. For someone to go to college, using student loans and graduating without a job, their future is very dim. How do they repay student loans with a $10 an hour job? Then there are those that can't afford to go to college at all.

Colleges and Universities pay high salaries with yearly raises to all their administrators and professors, many of whom English is not their first language, making learning very difficult. Why doesn't the Big O REALLY do something helpful to the American people and make higher education affordable for them?
You mean like stopping government loans?
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Cost to attend college is higher and higher. For someone to go to college, using student loans and graduating without a job, their future is very dim. How do they repay student loans with a $10 an hour job? Then there are those that can't afford to go to college at all.

Colleges and Universities pay high salaries with yearly raises to all their administrators and professors, many of whom English is not their first language, making learning very difficult. Why doesn't the Big O REALLY do something helpful to the American people and make higher education affordable for them?
Well, duh, how about not getting student loans in the first place? That's a no-brainer.

And today, degrees are pretty useless.

There sure are a lot of highly educated people out there who can't get jobs. Well, they could, but because of their high-falutin' degrees, they won't take jobs for commoners.

Their fault, their destiny. How dumb they are!
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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Well, duh, how about not getting student loans in the first place? That's a no-brainer.

And today, degrees are pretty useless.

There sure are a lot of highly educated people out there who can't get jobs. Well, they could, but because of their high-falutin' degrees, they won't take jobs for commoners.

Their fault, their destiny. How dumb they are!
Guess they should have a crystal ball to know how the economy will be when they get a degree and choose an occupation that they will be miserable in the rest of their lives. Or go into the education field.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: The Beautiful Pocono Mountains
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I think tenure needs to be done away with. I've seen too many teachers simply there to collect a paycheck. I've spoken to principals that realize this as well and say their hands are tied because of tenure and the union.

If there are any raises to be had they need to be merit based. No more teaching to a test.

That said, I also have seen kids and parents not care about education. As long as a teacher has a grade book and proven attempts to get in touch with parents, records of no show for extra help, etc. then those failing students do not count as a failure of the teacher.
There's something called "pass the trash". This is a term used by teachers to just move along the kids none want to deal with.
It's become an epidemic.
Education is a partnership between the family and the school. If one doesn't do their job, it fails.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yes, it seems fashionable for the extremists to attack teachers. The same people they entrusted to educate their children. Maybe if they can destroy our public educaltion system their children can all home-school ... and goose-step together, at "recess."
Guess who is destroying education near the border? Illegals by way of their kids. That would be mostly Mexicans and Guatemalans.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:00 AM
 
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My god liberals are dense.

Throwing more money at the problem, will not fix it. How ironic it is to see these simpleminded fools rail on about anti-intellectualism, while lacking the intellect to see this very clear reality, and the analytical ability to perform anything beyond the most simplistic judgment of this and similar things.

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An aide to Rep. John Kline, R-Minn., chairman of the House Education and the Workforce Committee, noted that the federal government already has more than 80 teacher quality programs and said it would be foolish to pump money into programs that may be duplicative or unproductive.
But of course, 81 programs will do the trick.



That being said, I've seen stupider suggestions by the left. Hopefully it will really "incentivize top-performing teachers" - but I won't get my hopes up.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Yes, it seems fashionable for the extremists to attack teachers. The same people they entrusted to educate their children. Maybe if they can destroy our public educaltion system their children can all home-school ... and goose-step together, at "recess."
For the most part our education system is broken already. And in the inner cities it is completely broken. And to find the cause one look no further than the teachers' unions. Those unions have long since abandoned any pretense of being about educating children. They have opposed every attempt to expand the choices available to parents to ensure that their children receive a decent education. In the meantime they have bullied and guilted states and local communites into spending more on schools over the last 40 years--promising improved test scores and graduation rates. But, if anything, we have nothing to show for the vast increases in education spending. Whatever we've been doing is not working and we need to try something different. Ask Obama about that. He's doing something different. Rather than sending his kids to the public schools of DC (which, by the way, has one of the highest ratesof per student expenditures in the country) he's exercising the choice that his wealth allows to send his daughters to private school. Why not extend that choice to other parents in DC by supporting vouchers? Oops, I forgot. That option is opposed by the teachers' unions and so that's off the table.
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